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01-07-2017 , 04:21 PM
Hero (2500) - Asian in 30s dont really play at this casino but the typical hoodie+headphone+watching interstellar on iphone guy. Playing fairly snug for ~2 hours. Picked up a few medium sized pots without showdown so pretty certain table image is TAG.

Villain (~4000) - 40s male with thick accent - not sure if eastern europe or persian - dark, hairy with lots of bling. Seems like he knows the other regs so probably a reg himself. Noticed him squeezing a few spots but not enough showdown hands to have a real read. Plays super aggressive with lots of triple barrels and river overbets but have been getting folds everytime from other regs. Not sure if he is TAG on heater or a Lagtard.

On to the hand.

Game is 5/T with straddle
Hero is in BB with KsQs
MP raises to 60, folds around to hero who flats, villain in straddle 3 bets to 160 MP folds and Hero flats.

(MP was new to the table so decided to take the conservative approach and flat with KQ suited OOP. Thoughts on calling vs raising? Thoughts on cold calling 3bet OOP?)

Flop (395) K 3 8 r
Hero check calls 240.

Turn (875) K 3 8 Q two diamonds
Hero checks Villain checks
(Was checking to check raise...thoughts?)

River (875) K 3 8 Q 8c
Hero bets 475 and Villain goes all in
Hero???
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01-07-2017 , 05:31 PM
WP, call river. Based on action and sizing pre, both opponents appear to be somewhat fishy. We don't have enough info to fold such a strong hand vs a silly line, so call off.
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01-07-2017 , 06:02 PM
fold pre both times. fold the river to the raise. river value bet is good but smaller sizing better
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01-07-2017 , 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by OmahaFanatical4
fold pre both times. fold the river to the raise. river value bet is good but smaller sizing better
lol
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01-07-2017 , 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by busticator
WP, call river. Based on action and sizing pre, both opponents appear to be somewhat fishy. We don't have enough info to fold such a strong hand vs a silly line, so call off.
Any thoughts on his range? With these overbets on the river I always just assume the range is polarized. Am I wrong to think that?
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01-08-2017 , 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mandu80
Any thoughts on his range? With these overbets on the river I always just assume the range is polarized. Am I wrong to think that?
His line/description would indicate his sizing isnt necessarily tied to range type, and id sooner assume that it has even less consideration for yours.

Sure, it seems to be an unfortunate river in that you now lose to some of his 8x that got there and his AA that went weak just to look bluffy on safe rivers (or some nonsensical reason)...However, each of those groups of hands that represent two different lines of his thinking also contain lots of hands you beat...

The speculative 8x group that shoves also has lots of bdfd/pair+bdfd that shoves

The pot control, FPS, feign weak/shove for value AA group also has AK and probably some Kx chop block type hands as well.

The likelihood of checking back sets is awfully negligible especially when you throw in the blocking. 83 is tough to account for and prob has no bearing on things. There's also some complete air.

Call
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01-08-2017 , 03:02 AM
3b the first time at a somewhat hi frequency I'd just jam ott omaha fanatic needs to stop posting ridiculous fold pre comments
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01-08-2017 , 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Amanaplan
His line/description would indicate his sizing isnt necessarily tied to range type, and id sooner assume that it has even less consideration for yours.

Sure, it seems to be an unfortunate river in that you now lose to some of his 8x that got there and his AA that went weak just to look bluffy on safe rivers (or some nonsensical reason)...However, each of those groups of hands that represent two different lines of his thinking also contain lots of hands you beat...

The speculative 8x group that shoves also has lots of bdfd/pair+bdfd that shoves

The pot control, FPS, feign weak/shove for value AA group also has AK and probably some Kx chop block type hands as well.

The likelihood of checking back sets is awfully negligible especially when you throw in the blocking. 83 is tough to account for and prob has no bearing on things. There's also some complete air.

Call
Get out of my head please.
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01-08-2017 , 11:06 AM
I feel like this is AA a ton.
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01-09-2017 , 05:55 AM
Looks like he reads your hand for exactly what it is and is going for max value with AA
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01-09-2017 , 07:25 PM
I'd just check call river. I can't see many worse hands to call except exactly AK.

AP, river is a fold. V can even show up 78s, 89s.
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01-09-2017 , 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by keybattle
I'd just check call river. I can't see many worse hands to call except exactly AK.
if thats true that he folds everything but AA, AK, and QQ, (and a few random 8xs) then we should just be peeling 100% of our range otf and taking this same line with air.
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01-10-2017 , 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by YGOchamp
if thats true that he folds everything but AA, AK, and QQ, (and a few random 8xs) then we should just be peeling 100% of our range otf and taking this same line with air.

You must figure out his 3bet range and among his 3bet range, how often does V Cbet flop and checks back turn to make float oop to be profitable.

Hint: he is not checking 100% of turn.


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