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Originally Posted by piratemike
Yes, and that’s what I see in my flop play. Flat call to make sure V2 was in and then aggression was shown, so I started amping up the aggression because I wanted to try to fold out any draws V1 might still be considering.
All that said, I’m still interested in what people would do on the turn here.
It's a weird spot. We played the second nuts like it was the nuts, and now our hand has gotten even stronger, but it's still the 2nd nuts, yet what was the nuts has now been significantly downgraded.
Your flop line is super-strong. If I'm V, I'm putting you on 76s, especially 76cc, or A2s, especially A2cc, or 55 for value. For bluffs, maybe something like A3cc, 66, or 65s.
What can V call with? It's got to be a reasonably strong hand, or a hand that has decent equity to improve against our strong range. I'd think he'd re-raise if he had a straight, unless it was the low-end, or he had the club draw to go with it. He could have a lot of 2P or worse sets that turned a boat, 1P + a draw, or just the nut flush draw.
I think it's time to pump the brakes and let V catch up or take the lead.
If we were mostly repping a straight on the flop, we might barrel here on the turn, with two flush draws on board, or we might check because the board paired, and our straights un-block V's boats. But we actually have top boat, and we're only losing to 1 combo of 44. If we jam, V is probably folding most of his flush draws, and might even fold some A2 combos.
If we check, it might look like we were raising as a semi-bluff on the flop with a hand that didn't improve on the turn, like A3cc, 66, or 65s. V can bet some of his value hands and semi-bluff with some of his draws.
If it checks through, we can jam river. We can get more value from V's entire range if we slow down on the turn.