1/2 home game on a roof, beer and weed surrounded.

Hero: Has a tight aggressive and correctly so image, 3 betting and PP in position to iso and opening premium hands. hardly ever limps besides winning a big pot against villian as I limped from SB with K9 and flop came A99, we got it in on the turn and he had AK and river came blank, I won the pot.


V: a 30 y/o russian super-aggressive, goes on a tilt and donks very frequent over the pot.

stacks:
Hero: 150
V: covers just a little more

On to the hand:
6 handed, 3 limpers to Hero on the button, with pocket Tens.
Hero raises to 8, Villian at SB says nope and 3bets to 20, Hero tanks and 4bets to 60. Reason for this is to take out all the weak KJ QJ and A2-A10 hands. Villians says "ok" and flats.

Flop: (pot: 125), I'm where I want to be with a shove on the flop but then this Ace comes up...
A 2 3 rainbow. Villians says: "I want to see what are you going to do" and checks.
Hero?

Raise larger initially pre...like the $10-$15 range...this would've allowed you to 4 bet all-in pre had villian still 3 bet and you felt like your range was well ahead. (i'm assuming when you say super aggressive, he has been 3 betting light frequently...from all positions).

As pre played out, I advocate flatting 3 bet...simply not deep enough to 4 bet/fold here. As played on the flop, not loving it, but getting all-in on flop. Gives you some fold equity and possible to get him off JJ-KK...you only have 3/4 pot left..

Oh yeah, pass on the rotation....this has a tendency to cause bad 4 bets....

As played id like to chk back flop and call off/jam any non facecard turn

Why do you want to fold out hands weaker than yours? (Preflop)

$16 pre. 4bet to $90 and call off or just flat. Don't 4bet to push out worse hands, 4bet for value or just flat pre

+1. An important question.

Probably just flatting the 3-bet pre. 4-betting forces us to play for stacks and allows vilain to play perfectly against us (if he is so inclined). If you are 4-betting with TT, it should be for value not to get better hands to f....




hold on a minute, did you say you were playing on a ROOF?

The next question after that is, "what hands in his 4-bet calling range do you beat on the flop?"

Accurate.

But aren't we also interested in what hands we are behind that we can get to fold on the flop?

I want to get called by AJ+ and fold his weak attempt to blow me off the pot, with the plan to bet on every Jack or lower flop and win the pot.

I checked behind, and 2nd ace popped. Villian tanks... and bets 40.
Hero?

Exactly. Just flat the 3bet or jam if you have some weird meta game stuff going on with a lot of light GII PF.

It's hard for him to think you have ak otf if you check it back. The only way you hit this flop and check is exactly if you have AA. The then brings another ace. This really has to make it seem like AA is out if the question for your hand and he is now betting is jj-KK thinking he is good. He would probably play a10-aq this way also in fear of the him putting you on ak. You don't bet he is golden. I would probably fold given the line you take you either flopped a monster or have a smaller than ace pair. The turn makes the second one that much more likely

As played check back the flop and shove the turn.

Don't like the 4b at all.

we are playing on the rooftop of a building, casinos are illegal here.

Villian bets 40 and puts me into a shove or fold positions, I tank and fold after he says he would show me. Villian shows A7

Im disgusted. these are the hands I wanted to fold.

I still don't understand why you want that hand to fold pre? You want that hand to call all day long everyday. Your reasoning makes no sense. The hands you want to fold pre are JJ+ which probably isn't happening too many times. I ll take 10 10 vs A7s all day.

You make a little money getting worse hands to fold, but you make way more money getting them to call. You need to review some fundamentals.

If you are getting a 4bet called by A7s you should be thrilled. You can also widen your 3bet and 4bet range pretty significantly.

Same question?
We aren't looking to turn 1010 into a bluff are we. We should only be raising if worse will call.