This is a hand of 1/2, which happens to be against the same drunk villain that busted out in my small flopped flush thread.

History: When sober, the villain was below average IMHO. Young, cocky, and ready to give action, but not very good post flop. In one of my first hands at the table (before I had a real good read on him), he 3bet an open I made with pocket aces. That thinned out the field, and I opted to flat. I got two bets out of him on the flop and turn, and then popped him. He showed me an ace (not the kicker) and folded on a K high board. After watching him for a couple of hours as he punded the drinks, I got the feeling he would 3bet really, really light.
Two hands earlier, he won a pot with pocket aces. The next hand he is UTG, looks down and starts laughing, and announces he doesn't want to take our money with aces again. He bets $20, the table folds, and he shows AA.

Key stacks:
Hero: $600+
Villain: $400+

I am now on the button. 5 limpers to me, I have KK. I raise to $17.
SB folds.
BB (Villain): raises $35 more to $52. The amount surprises me, as his 3bets were usually min raises. He just had AA back to back, and he is drunk enough that if he got it the third time, he would not be able to control himself. He is spewing, so I am thinking he maybe has some sort of ace or a PP, although some random suited cards are possible.

Folds to me, with the pot being $80.
Decision time. I feel like we should 4 bet here. He is a station, and if he happens to have something like QQ/JJ/TT, I jus can't see him laying it down. I am not sure what he would do with Ax.
If I call, the pot will be $132, and he will have in the neighborhood of $350 behind. He will have initiative, which I think is good, but his bet sizing is really bad, so getting stacks in my be tough with him leading the way.

Anyone have any strong opinions up to this point about this hand?

I opted to 4bet for $100 more. Good, bad, or ugly?

If he calls, and the flop completely bricks, do we bet if he checks, or see if we can get him to spew on the turn?

This deep I like 4betting, especiailly if you think he wont lay down tt-qq. I might make it slightly smaller, like 120 total instead of 150.

If you do 4bet I think you have to bet a raggy flop. 4betting and then checking a raggy flop is going to look really suspicious unless he's so drunk and bad that he won't notice.

He is drunk enough it *might* be possible.

Any history with you being aggressive towards him, like c/r his c-bets?

My first impression is he is just F'in around. He likely has a better than average hand, might even be as good as AK, but I give him a pretty wide range. My guess he is folding or shoving to your 4-bet here. If he shoves, you got to call here.

if u think he calls with Ak, TT-QQ then yea i 4bet.

But the min bet is so weird live. it could mean AA or it could mean AK or even JJ.

call pre. his range includes many AK, AQ, AJ hands. You wanna make sure there is no A OTF and let him bet into you.With QQ-TT and no A OTF, you should have no problem putting the whole stacks in by the river

I check/raised him on the turn in an earlier hand after I called his 3bet. I had raised him on the flop and taken a couple of pots from him.

I think his hand is better than average, but it could be craptacular as well. I lean towards him having A-x, as that is more likely than him having TT+.
If he shoves, I am snap calling as my read is 100% he doesn't have aces.

I decided to 4bet because he might call with crap, and because he doesn't get aggressive post flop and folds easily.

The reason I ask, is he might be at a breaking point and might snap post flop... "I have had enough of his BS, I am going to make a stand here!" type thing. With that in mind it might be time to flat his RR and raise/overbet any flop and let him make his last stand.

In retrospect, that is maybe what I should have done. I burned him when I flatted with aces, although he never knew what I had, so my thinking was to play this one faster.

Now, we are getting to my real question.

He CALLS the $100 4bet. Now mind you, he almost peed himself letting us know he had aces the last two hands. I am willing to stake my life he didn't get them the third time.

The pot is $300 plus.

He has $250+ behind.

Flop:
4
4
7

He checks. I am fairly certain he doesn't have a PP, or he would have bet it there...I think. I am thinking he has an ace or some weird broadway hand. Is there any merit to checking this back? Or am I asking for trouble?

Bet $350

You're making this too complicated. He's got less than a psb left. Just jam.

i think the decision pre will be based on villains range and postflop tendencies a lot if you know them at all.

The more villain can be really wide, the more i like flatting.
The more villain will have TT JJ etc, the more i like 4 betting.
The more villain will barrel no matter what he has if we just weakly call, the more i like flatting.

i bet $60 to induce a spew, or check if i think he will take the lead if i check.

That is probably what I should have done. I bet $200, he sat there for a while, said "good bet" and mucked. I just couldn't figure out how to get him to spew, but I am certain there was a way.

Percula may also have been right about flatting, and just letting him take the lead.

When he flats and checks to you OTF you have three options to try and set him off...

• Bet small as ANL suggested
• Overbet big time
• Check and let him try his luck OTT. This is the least of the 3 as too often he will just check again.

1. i would jam it all day giving his stack and the pot size/action pf.
2. checking should never really be an option according to your reads against this particular player.

You answered your questions of what to do post flop with one simple read on your opponent: he doesn't get aggressive post flop. More than likely he isn't paying you off unless he catches up via hitting an A or a set. The set you are paying off 100% of the time and an A just makes you vomit inside when you check/bet and he shoves the turn.

My guess is his hand paid you way more than you ever should have made in this hand so be happy

He's drunk and you have KK, stop playing scared. Make it $200, and call his push pf

I wasn't scared - I was trying to figure out how to get it all in as quickly as possible.

K sorry, but you've got to make it somewhere between $150 and shove preflop