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07-18-2008 , 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by zedveron
No, his call on the turn is the problem here. I raise the turn hoping to get it in against a set/two pair. Those are what I wanted value from, and we were never getting value from worse hands either on the turn or river
so you're saying he check/folds tptk on the river?
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07-18-2008 , 10:48 PM
^^^^ Yes, wouldn't you? But he probably shouldn't have even got to the river with tptk, which is what makes this hand so ridiculous. I am not saying it's likely he has a boat, obv it is unlikely, but my argument is that he has a boat more times than he calls with tptk/2 pairs.
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07-18-2008 , 11:17 PM
how could he not get to the river with tptk if you just call him down?
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07-18-2008 , 11:59 PM
I raised his $76 turn bet to $200.
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07-19-2008 , 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by zedveron
I raised his $76 turn bet to $200.
If you think hes going to fold AK to your raise then you shouldn't raise
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07-19-2008 , 12:17 AM
I'm trying to figure out what he showed up with that beat you=/
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07-19-2008 , 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by EricDarland
Also, why would you raise the turn if you think hes going to fold everything besides a set?
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Originally Posted by zedveron
No, his call on the turn is the problem here. I raise the turn hoping to get it in against a set/two pair. Those are what I wanted value from, and we were never getting value from worse hands either on the turn or river
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07-19-2008 , 06:21 AM
I don't like my last post. It was too nitty.

If he had a set he would've shipped it in on the turn, or open shoved the river. He has an A, so shove. He's calling with AT, AK and maybe even AQ. Why would he call your turn raise and not anything on the river? He has to believe you are shoving your whole range on the river since the pot is so big. If he doesn't have anything, that sucks. Not as much as missed value though.

What was your image at the table, or what he perceived?


Oldschool,

Cats are very curious creatures, so it may have fallen into the bag. I do agree it'd be sick to throw one in there for just a pic.....unless they ate it later though. That's totally ok. j/k

/derail
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07-19-2008 , 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by miaowmiaowchowface
I'm trying to figure out what he showed up with that beat you=/
I checked behind. He had AK. he went on in the chat box about what is it with 2/4 donks calling with gutshots, like duh. I said because you can stack people like him who can't fold AK. So of course he said but you didn't stack me, you checked the river. Owned.
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07-19-2008 , 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by zedveron
I said because you can stack people like him who can't fold AK.
If he can't fold AK, WTFRUDOIN?!?!?!
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07-19-2008 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by zedveron
I checked behind. He had AK. he went on in the chat box about what is it with 2/4 donks calling with gutshots, like duh. I said because you can stack people like him who can't fold AK. So of course he said but you didn't stack me, you checked the river. Owned.
why the **** you talk in the chat about not stacking off light and make people play like nits? do you have any clue wtf are you doin?

easiest shove ever btw
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07-19-2008 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by zedveron
Edit: and if I had posted this hand from villain's perspective saying "should I call with AK/AT here" I am pretty sure I know what the responses would be.
Fold turn/shove turn or call turn & call river
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07-21-2008 , 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by zedveron
I checked behind. He had AK. he went on in the chat box about what is it with 2/4 donks calling with gutshots, like duh. I said because you can stack people like him who can't fold AK. So of course he said but you didn't stack me, you checked the river. Owned.
if you had posted this from villans view point you would have gotten the correct answer and you got the correct answer from your view point, villan should have either folded turn, or called turn and c/c river.."depending on his read"

now if villan doesnt have a good read on you than there is a problem, if he does and he picks the wrong option he is a bad poker player,

but now we dont know since you didnt shove river because you are a....!!?
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07-21-2008 , 05:15 AM
Yeah it's great when we know what he had after the fact, 20/20 hindsight etc. But no competent villain is calling the river with AK in a vacuum, and I assume my opponents are competent until proven otherwise.
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07-21-2008 , 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by zedveron
Yeah it's great when we know what he had after the fact, 20/20 hindsight etc. But no competent villain is calling the river with AK in a vacuum, and I assume my opponents are competent until proven otherwise.
I'm now convinced that this is some sick post for metagame. Yup, I see right through it.
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