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11-26-2008 , 12:17 AM
Villain is 17/14/3.2, 3 bets 7.6%, Raises flop CBet 13%. This guy can make some plays, sometimes tricky, but keep in mind he's still a TAG, not really spewy.

No-Limit Hold'em, $4.00 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($400)
Hero (UTG) ($412)
UTG+1 ($499)
MP1 ($433.30)
MP2 ($480.30)
CO ($80)
Button ($68)
SB ($267.60)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, Q
Hero raises $14, 2 folds, MP2 calls $14, 4 folds

Flop: ($34) 2, J, 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $30, MP2 raises $80, Hero ?
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11-26-2008 , 04:27 AM
if there were some dynamics going on, where i felt like he was going to be making a move, i might try to do something here, but you did raise utg, so i dont think he is going to be trying to bluff you off of that strong of a range, although this is actually a good spot to make a move....the hand plays so bad oopi think folding might honestly be best, against someone with some sort of reasonable balanced turn barreling range.......if i know the guy will give up, if called, ill check call, but it still feels gross...

when i do fold i just tell myself im a bad nit, and that im reducing variance......


maybe im just a pussy tho in this spot....its def expliotable, but unless i think they are trying ot **** with me, my standard here would just be to give up sometimes, or check call and fold to most river bets....
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11-26-2008 , 05:35 AM
I fold. His raise c-bet is quite low and he may respect you a bit more since you are raising from UTG.
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11-26-2008 , 11:25 AM
I shove : drawy board, you raise from a steal position and very good equity vs his range.
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11-26-2008 , 12:38 PM
UTG =/= steal position

without history it's a fold imo, with history call or raise
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11-26-2008 , 12:50 PM
I really hate these spots but I think our hand is too strong to fold on flop. Villain can have any pair, any Jx hand, frush draw, etc.

Very villain dependent... might 3 bet, might call and reevaluate turn. C/r on a blank turn would be a sexy line.
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11-26-2008 , 05:38 PM
He's very rarely raising any pair or Jx with a 13% raise c-bet.
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11-27-2008 , 06:57 AM
omg call play turn, if ur loose urself that board never hits u. turn is so read based it cant be played otu without more info. if i continue i prolyl crai blank turn (<jj,not flush)
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11-28-2008 , 02:47 PM
$180/call
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