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400NL: 3 Barrel or no? 400NL: 3 Barrel or no?

07-16-2008 , 06:49 AM
I don't usually play cash on Stars but heard it was full of huge fish and decided to have a dabble.

First hand at the table so no reads:

Poker Stars $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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Hero (CO): $400.00
BTN: $481.00
SB: $191.65
BB: $284.00
UTG: $390.50
UTG+1: $397.85
UTG+2: $461.00
MP1: $484.90
MP2: $392.00

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with A 3
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $12, 3 folds, Hero calls $8, 3 folds

Flop: ($30.00) 8 J T (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $20, UTG+1 calls $20

Turn: ($70.00) K (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $40, UTG+1 calls $40

River: ($150.00) A (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero...


Are you firing the last shot or giving up? If you bet, how much?
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07-16-2008 , 07:16 AM
i have no idea, I guess I'd prolly avoid it cuz I dno wtf is going on here
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07-16-2008 , 07:53 AM
so im guessing you fired and it didnt work. i dont think you should be cbetting this flop vs a complete unknown, i like checking flop and firing on non clubs on the turn and river.
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07-16-2008 , 08:32 AM
I'm guessing you posted in the CO and called his raise. Amirite? I probably just check behind b/c you have pretty good SD value now.
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07-16-2008 , 09:50 AM
throw a buck out there
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07-16-2008 , 01:39 PM
Think about WTF is he caling the flop and turn with if NOT a high flush card?

1st off he checked the flop. Wouldnt you tend to at least fire once with any hand? You are in EP and you raised. You can easily have Ac or Kc. So why is he checking and calling? Hes a wimp. I would say at worst he has the naked FD at best a big pair. Hes not folding KcKx or QcQx on the river with the line he played. Check it down and hope he doesnt have a club. Also if he called down AxKc would he fold on the river?

Id say 60/40 he has a big club and isnt folding. AA is unlikely. Take the check on the river and see if your ace is good. If it is the annoyance is so huge you bluffed him it might be worth a lot more later.
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07-16-2008 , 10:24 PM
^^^^

What he said. Basically, he has the Kc or Qc here way too often to bet this.
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07-16-2008 , 10:29 PM
dont post in the c/o its such a leak

just check it back you have some showdown value. now if u didnt hit your A then you could bluff it.
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07-16-2008 , 10:43 PM
I feel like firing the turn is bad. Thoughts?
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07-16-2008 , 11:55 PM
I check turn, check riv mostly. DEFINITELY not 3rd barrel. He c/c two streets, he's got a big club here so often.
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07-17-2008 , 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
I feel like firing the turn is bad. Thoughts?
looks like lighting money on fire
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07-17-2008 , 02:23 AM
An overbet shove on the river is really sexy, and this hand is played really well up until then.
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07-17-2008 , 03:32 AM
Fire one more!!!
I dont think this guy has the King of clubs, hits the club on the turn, and then doesnt raise!
And, no lead on this river??
Put a 100 out there, and you might just fold out the best hand!
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07-17-2008 , 03:34 AM
I think you were sadly misinformed with stars MSNL being a big fish pond.
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07-17-2008 , 03:45 AM
raise ALL IN
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07-17-2008 , 07:48 AM
I 3-barreled, he folded TT. It's true what they say obv.
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07-17-2008 , 11:12 AM
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I 3-barreled, he folded TT. It's true what they say obv.
results-oriented much?
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07-18-2008 , 11:21 AM
It's definitely 3 barrels or 1 here.
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07-18-2008 , 03:17 PM
of course you bet the river here. you arent going to see a lone club too often with him checking. you will have to bluff out two pairs and trips or get to see something like a straight flush. so bet the appropriate amount to do the job.

then take some time to look into your game if you find yourself doing these things too often.
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07-18-2008 , 03:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray Zee
of course you bet the river here. you arent going to see a lone club too often with him checking. you will have to bluff out two pairs and trips or get to see something like a straight flush. so bet the appropriate amount to do the job.

then take some time to look into your game if you find yourself doing these things too often.
He can't have trips, the board isn't paired.
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07-18-2008 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by WorldsBiggestNit
results-oriented much?
That's not results orriented, learn2hand read. I'm not going to teach you how to, however, since that would require educating the fish. However, if you or anyone else wants lessons, they are still on sale for 1k/hr, until 2 weeks from now. I'm pretty surprised that no one has taken me up on the offer yet, since it's a huge steal, and it's definitely worth way more than that in the long run. I guess everyone wants to continue to be bad at poker though
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07-20-2008 , 12:12 AM
I think villain mucked 7c9c. He was trapping you, but then you had KcQc and rivered the Royal flush that beat his straight flush. It was painful, but he mucked it and lost the minimum. He told you he mucked TT just like all poker players will lie about their hands.


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Originally Posted by Kelisitaan
That's not results orriented, learn2hand read. I'm not going to teach you how to, however, since that would require educating the fish. However, if you or anyone else wants lessons, they are still on sale for 1k/hr, until 2 weeks from now. I'm pretty surprised that no one has taken me up on the offer yet, since it's a huge steal, and it's definitely worth way more than that in the long run. I guess everyone wants to continue to be bad at poker though
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