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Originally Posted by submersible
"While KQs is very strong it's not really strong enough to be playing oop, deep against a really good opponent." you literally said this.
You're right, I should have chosen better language in my post. What I meant to say is that calling and playing OOP is likely to be extremely difficult vs a skilled opponent. It should still be +EV but can become negative EV as we will be prone to making significant mistakes.
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Originally Posted by submersible
the 3bets here from villain are supposed to be like k8o and t4ss type hands. i dont really think 4bing a more linear range but flatting the top end of it makes sense as an adjustment either.
I didn't mean to suggest that we would have a strictly linear range, we should still be 4 bet bluffing with hands like AJo/KQ etc as well as AA/KK/AK. When I said we should call here w/AA or KK I didn't mean 100% of the time
I get that villain is supposed to be 3 betting hands like K8/T4ss but the question becomes, what's the best way to fight against it? If I'm going to be OOP for this hand, I want hands that I can play easily, I don't want to get into a position where I have K high and have to check/fold or check/call against a villain capable of putting pressure on me. If his range has too many bluffs in it, I want to punish that range by making him fold PF and picking up the substantial dead money b/c it will be difficult to play oop. Hands like T9 or A8 have significant equity against our hand so getting them to fold PF is +EV. In position I can get behind flatting a wider range b/c we can use our position as and advantage post flop to punish his light 3 betting but OOP things get very tricky which is why I prefer flatting with AA/KK OOP and letting him barrel.
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Originally Posted by submersible
im not trying to pick on you or anything i just disagree strongly w that post
No worries dude, I appreciate the back and forth, this is where the learning happens. I'm happy to hear the other side of the argument to find out where I'm going wrong
Last edited by ssmallz; 05-04-2023 at 02:11 PM.