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300 NL Live Misplayed Aces leads to tough river decision 300 NL Live Misplayed Aces leads to tough river decision

08-02-2008 , 06:15 PM
Info on villain: Somewhat tight, but once in a hand he likes to be aggressive and take control. Tends not to have a "call" or "check" button, usually he's betting or raising. A pretty smart player IMO, but has a tendency to trap himself on rivers by not checking behind. I have played with him before, and previous descriptions I have had on him range from "luckbox" to "donkey" to "great value bets".

Comments on all streets welcome, aware I FPS'd myself into a bad river decision.

Game is 1 2 2 (5 to enter), 300 buy in.

Villain ~ 700
Hero ~ 500

Hero is UTG with AA

Hero limps, 1 fold, villain raises to 20, folds to hero, hero checks his watch randomizer and decides to call to trap.


A107

Hero checks, villain bets 30, hero calls.

5
Hero checks, villain checks.

6
Hero bets 75, villain insta-raises all in.

Argh!
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08-02-2008 , 06:51 PM
Call. If he back doored a flush, let that be your pennance for butchering the rest of the hand. I think you'll see the naked A a lot.
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08-02-2008 , 07:17 PM
looks like a call, why would he ever instashove with anything that beats you? best move here is to instacall. for paybacks.

Last edited by PartysOver; 08-02-2008 at 07:18 PM. Reason: going the way of kelisitaan in MHFR
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08-04-2008 , 05:08 AM
well you've completely butchered this whole hand and deserve to lose to a backdoor flush.
Could be something like 89 too i guess. You, my friend, have put yourself in a very tough position.
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08-04-2008 , 07:06 AM
i love the way you wait and wait and wait and wait until you no longer have the strongest possible hand, then you bet! you're right, you really butchered it

river is very read dependent. frankly its a bit of a river overbet which in most live games means the nuts or close (Ax spades or 89), so u should prob fold and remember there's nothing wrong with betting the best hand in future.
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08-04-2008 , 09:04 AM
This is awfully played. At least, you have to lead the turn, there's two flush draws and a ton of straight draws, this is just suicide.

As played call, what else.
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08-06-2008 , 02:14 PM
I'm the villain in this hand. I have to say, the OP(hero) and I have a long playing history together and I thoroughly beat him down on this hand... just to gloat a bit.

As I described to the OP, he could've taken a fair amount of $$ from me this hand.

Pre-Flop
The Randomizer is a great play. It disguised his AA to the point where I was pretty sure he didn't have the rockets.

Flop
The check-call put me on edge a bit. If OP had reraised me, it would've put me on the defensive to either a set or a 2-pair. At this point I had rethought my hand and put OP on JJ, TT or AT. 2 of which had me crushed.

Turn
Great card for me. I've got top pair and a flush draw. Betting out here would not do me any good. I would set myself up for a check raise which I would probably have to call given the stack & pot sizes.

At this point my plan was to check, hope for a spade on the river. If not, then check/call with my TPTK

River
I am the luckiest donkey. OP raises me $75. Was thinking of the best bet size to maximize my chances of a call. ~$200 pot, OP had ~$350 or so left, a value bet would only serve to cause the OP to think as to whether his hand just got flushed out, so my better chance would be to shove. It didn't feel like I insta-shoved, but after talking to OP, he said I took less than 30 seconds, felt like a minute or two to me.

Anyways, not a bad hand for me. OP ran himself into various holes to my benefit.
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08-06-2008 , 04:28 PM
In case you haven't figured it out yet, I had

AsKs
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08-07-2008 , 10:40 PM
tiltedlitt... why didn't you bet the turn?
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08-08-2008 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by onlinebeginner
tiltedlitt... why didn't you bet the turn?
I didn't bet the turn because I was fairly certain that OP would check-raise me. At this point in the hand, i didn't want to get my stack committed with TPTK.
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