$2/$5

Villains:
V1: 25 y/o white guy. Weak tight-ish/ borderline NIT and plays fairly straight forward. Limps a lot pre and plays straight forward post.

V2: 25 y/o Mexican new to table - not a lot of reads. He seems like a gambler type. Only bought in for minimum and seems like he is trying to double up so he can go play roulette.

Hero: I've been very aggressive and active at this table. Probably a LAGgish image

Stacks:
V1 = 735
V2 = 220
Hero = 1000

Pre-Flop: Folds to V1 who opens from CO for $25. V2 calls from SB. Hero raises to $85 from BB with AA. Both call...

POT= 255
Flop: J96

V2 (Mexican guy) shoves for 150. Hero calls 150. V1 shoves AI.

So its 500 to me to call. Side pot is 500 and MAIN POT is about 700.

I would like to hear your thoughts/ criticisms on Hero play on all streets and of course, whether you GII as played.

Thanks

Fold. Nit shoves his stack into a dry side pot, JJ/99's are good.

I would raise bigger pre-flop here and just make it 100.

On the flop I think I'm calling, but some more information about his (perceived) opening range and 3bet calling range would be nice. Obviously not too worried about V2, his range is super wide. I'm guessing V1 has enough draws (and worse overpairs and maybe even AJ) in his range to justify a call, especially since he should think he has FE after you just call V2's shove. But I do know a lot of live players who would overcall their AcQc and the likes here and would never take the aggressive line and shove. So many people are just too trigger shy to play even their big draws aggressively, but that may not be the case in your player pool or with this villain. You be the judge of that...

This spot sucks. Weak-tight player goes over the top of an all-in and a call? At the very least, he has two-pair.

Well, two pair seems pretty far-fetched, since he would probably be folding or limping any hand that makes two pair on this flop. I'm also thinking he would limp a decent amount of his hands that make a set here, maybe even 50%.

The problem however is, if he is indeed weaktight, that should apply post-flop as well, making this sort of meh anyway, I guess.

3b pot, check. SPR 3, check. Put in 1/3 stack, check. Got aces, check. I'd call.

He can be weak-tight and sill think QQ-KK or AJ is the nuts vs a person with a loose aggressive image.

Not loving it but I'm calling.

This is actually a very good point, and might weigh this towards a call.

Instinctively I would want to fold, but if we think about V1's range there are as many combos of QQ as JJ+99. Our hand is underrepped. We're getting better than 2-1. Might V1 have flatted our 3! pf w. KK? Call.

I highly doubt a weak tight player is calling JJ or 99 to a three bet preflop which is more than 10% of his stack. Maybe JJ, maybe. And 2 pair on this board is pretty laughable from V1.

At any rate, this is why you 3 bet with AA, to get the SPR low enough that you can comfortably stack off postflop. Call. If V1 wins you will certainly get your money back from him IF he indeed played JJ or 99 like this. V2 is just not a factor because of the size of the side pot, if he wins and you beat V1, no blood, no foul.

Fist pump call, high five the table, kiss the waitress, and flip the dealer a redbird or 2.

I'm pretty certain V1 has a set.

Nits don't call a raise and then a 3-bet from the SB w AJ. Nits are still likely to 3-bet QQ/KK/AcKc PF. People don't care about position when they are set-mining. He was set-mining. He binked.

Not to mention, what do you think V1 puts hero on after we 3-bet pre and call a big bet on this flop? Our perceived range is an overpair and he's not trying to bluff us off it.

Yeah this was fairly close to my reasoning at the table. The only thing though is that we are not really getting 2-1 to just beat him. In that side pot it is 1-1 ($500 a piece). yes we are not "worried" so much about V2 at this point but the pot he just shoved into isn't strictly between V1 and I so do we have to tweak the odds at all? Would this affect your decision on calling?

No, as described he has too much top pair, and/or flush/str8 draws to factor him into our odds.

He's not?

I dunno, he is shoving in the only spot he can have meaningful FE, I would think.

if youre a weak tight player, a gambler bets 2/3 pot and then a LAG just flats. a hand like AJ beats both their range too often to fold. we have almost 1 spr. i can see a ship from some players here.

id cry call

For sure.




So our b/e equity is ~29.4% (500/1700). Actually it's less because we don't have to beat V2 for the side pot, but whatever...

Gave V1 what I would consider a nightmarish range for us (all of the 99, only 50% of QQ/KK combos, no AA/AKcc/AQcc).

Board: 6dJc9c
Equity Win Tie
UTG 34.60% 32.44% 2.15% { AdAs }
UTG+1 38.89% 36.71% 2.19% { KK+, JJ, 99 }
UTG+2 26.51% 26.48% 0.03% { QQ-JJ, 99, 66, AJs, KJs, QTs+, J9s+, AcKc, AcQc, KcQc, AcTc, KcTc, Ac8c, Tc8c, Ac7c, 8c7c, Ac6c, 8c6c, 7c6c, Ac5c, 7c5c, 6c5c, Ac4c, Ac3c, Ac2c, AJo, KJo, QTo+, JTo }

played very well up to the shove by the nit. I like the 3! sizing pre, and then the flat call from the shorty.

so does the nit have JJ or not is the question? I don't think he calls 85 pre with 99- , so he either has JJ, Ax, or QQ+


tough spot. I don't think he would spaz with the nut club draw, and I think that he gives you credit for QQ+, so it really looks like JJ.

but getting almost 2.5:1, that is such a hard fold to make.

sigh fold.

I'd raise more pre $100-115

AP you may be against a set or a FD so this is a bit of a gross spot and I'm not sure I can call as I may be drawing to one card

I simply don't understand how people want to fold this. This is precisely how V1 would play KK, and probably QQ as well. After we flat the flop, our hand looks less and less like AA. He has more combos of KK/QQ (even discounting QQ) than he does JJ/99.

I don't care about the side pot odds being lower, because we are ahead of V2's range too.

GII already.

Why are you calling the flop? I don't necessarily disagree, but it must be either:
1) to lose less when V1 has a set
2) to induce V1 to jam
3) to induce V1 to call with worse

If either #1 or #2 then you've already made up your mind. I think #3 is pretty unrealistic.



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You can hit an A on the tun. Call.

Why is #3 unrealistic? Do you think V1 is folding QQ/KK?

I thought it was unlikely V1 is flatting overs with wet board

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I would definitely call, V would play QQ and KK like this often.