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3 Hands Facing Aggression OOP 1/2 3 Hands Facing Aggression OOP 1/2

01-03-2015 , 05:43 PM
Had all three of these hands happen last night and looking for comments.

I had the primary V covered in each hand. Hero is MAWG who plays TAG and my reputation is strong as hands that make it to showdown are strong. I'm stealing small-mid pots too, but not caught yet.

Hand 1: V late 20's asian/spanish kid. Stack about $200. He raises to $6 UTG. My read is his range is wider than most. I dont think he understands position and he's making this same raise UTG, button after 4 callers and from the blinds. He hasn't shown much spew, but overvalues hands. Five callers and I call with 22 from SB.

Flop ($40): 235 rainbow. I lead out $30, V calls, others fold. I dont think he's calling with overcards, so he has some PP.

Turn ($110): A 235 completes rainbow. Not a great card, so I check, he checks back. I feel I'm now WA/WB.

River ($110): 4 A235. Sigh. I check he thinks for about 15 seconds then shoves.

Hand 2: V ($200) old guy with a military baseball hat showing he earned a purple heart. He's far from nitty, he raises light pre frequently and somewhat aggressive post, but have not seen him make a huge bluff.

V makes it $7 from button after a few callers, I make it $25 from BB with KK. V and 1 other caller.

Flop ($75ish): J63 rainbow. As dry as possible. I bet out $50, fold, V tank shoves for $120 more.


Hand 3: V late 30's white guy. We started table together, first hand he is on the button and raises to $12, gets reraised to $25 by different old guy. Flop 665. Gets all in. Turn Q, river 6. V shows 65. Old guy shows QQ. Ouch. The thing is, my hand is 2 hours later and V has not raised pre or shown any aggression since. Very strange.

To the hand, V ($450) raises to $10 UTG. Short stack calls. I make it $40 from BB with AsKs. V calls, short stack goes all in for $10 more. Both call.

Flop $150: KhTh3s. I lead out for $80. V tank calls.
Turn $310: KhTh3s7h. I bet $120. V tank shoves for $200 more.

I manged to make the wrong move on all three hands. Looking for comments as played and criticisms on other streets welcome.
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01-03-2015 , 06:51 PM
Hand 1: Judgement call but I would lean fold. Fish do weird things in these situations where there is a good chance both players are playing the board. However, his shove is more then pot so I would generally fold. When your chopping at best and villain over bets you have to be right a lot for calling to be +EV.

Hand 2: Another judgement call but pretty much a toss up given stack size. He can be shoving something like AK/QQ/AJ/54 that your ahead of, but obviously also sets and possibly some bluffs. Preflop probably should be a little bigger out of the BB.

Hand 3: Villain looks like a rock. His preflop raising range is something like AK/QQ+, just fold AK preflop OOP against him. Heck, if he is that much of a rock even in position AK and QQ are a fold. When he is deep enough you can set mine and play some drawing hands in position, particularly if he will consistently pay off with over pairs. As played, as soon as this guy calls the flop give up.
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01-03-2015 , 07:17 PM
Hand 1 I bet the turn. You say 2 contradicting things. On the flop you say you don't think he is calling with over cards so he has some PP, but now an A hits the turn and you are thinking all of a sudden he has a higher set or a straight unless he has exactly AA. 1 of the 2 statements is wrong.

I don't think he is just calling the flop with a higher set, with a small pot builder raise, even if he doesn't understand position one would imagine you don't want a lot of callers, even bad players usually raise on a drawy type board multi-way with a set.

As played i fold the river per for such a large bet where we either chop or lose i just fold.

Hand 2 I call due to him only raising $7 pre combined with your description of "He's far from nitty, he raises light pre frequently and somewhat aggressive post, but have not seen him make a huge bluff" and getting 2:1 on a call. Being far from nitty and aggressive post flop along with his min raise he could have several Jx in his hands. You say that He hasn't made a huge bluff, but in his mind QJ /1010 might not a bluff here and he wants to "Raise You off AK to Charge you to hit it" Folding is weighting his range too much to only AA, JJ, 66 and 33. 2 pair is unlikely unless you have seen him raise with weird hands like 36 prior.

Hand 3 is weird. I can't fold AK for 1 bet pre here and usually reraise, maybe against a rock you just call and play a small pot OOP, but that kinda sucks too.
As played Fold turn seems good, the only thing that is weird to me is what hands does Villain Tank call flop with and ship the turn? AAh? AhKx? on such a draw heavy flop would he really only Call with TT or KK and then ship the turn? Could he have QQh hence the tank on the flop and turn ship. Some super tighties don't play many hands and then once they do overplay and hate to to just give up when they finally get QQ. what about AJ/Qhh? sometimes these guys don't like to semi bluff and just call the flop? It looks like a turn fold is correct as against a super tight guy you're not really beating anything but it's hard to figure out a hand he would play this way.
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01-04-2015 , 09:00 PM
Not a lot of responses, but results below:

Hand 1: I called. V had 66.

Hand 2: I folded. V shows 77. Then went on a maniac LAG spree for about an hour, then nitty, then LAG again and was down to about $100 when I left. Very strange how he just switched gears so often.

Hand 3: I folded. V shows AdKd (so no flush draw either) and short stack had AT. Main V scooped on a blank river.
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01-04-2015 , 09:56 PM
I think 3 hands in 1 post is too much, try making 3 different posts next time, I almost gave up but was super bored so read your whole post.

#1 is a fold, I agree that you should of bet turn it you were putting him on higher PP.

#2 is a call, really never folding here in that spot.

#3 folding due to Villians image.
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01-04-2015 , 09:57 PM
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Hand 1: V late 20's asian/spanish kid. Stack about $200. He raises to $6 UTG. My read is his range is wider than most. I dont think he understands position and he's making this same raise UTG, button after 4 callers and from the blinds. He hasn't shown much spew, but overvalues hands. Five callers and I call with 22 from SB.

Flop ($40): 235 rainbow. I lead out $30, V calls, others fold. I dont think he's calling with overcards, so he has some PP.

Turn ($110): A 235 completes rainbow. Not a great card, so I check, he checks back. I feel I'm now WA/WB.

River ($110): 4 A235. Sigh. I check he thinks for about 15 seconds then shoves.
betting turn for sure.
I think only 66 fits his UTG opening range to have a 6x, but im not happy calling to chop pots at best with this overbet. not happy but im folding.

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Hand 2: V ($200) old guy with a military baseball hat showing he earned a purple heart. He's far from nitty, he raises light pre frequently and somewhat aggressive post, but have not seen him make a huge bluff.

V makes it $7 from button after a few callers, I make it $25 from BB with KK. V and 1 other caller.

Flop ($75ish): J63 rainbow. As dry as possible. I bet out $50, fold, V tank shoves for $120 more.
snap call. why would he do this with a set? most likely AJ.

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Hand 3: V late 30's white guy. We started table together, first hand he is on the button and raises to $12, gets reraised to $25 by different old guy. Flop 665. Gets all in. Turn Q, river 6. V shows 65. Old guy shows QQ. Ouch. The thing is, my hand is 2 hours later and V has not raised pre or shown any aggression since. Very strange.

To the hand, V ($450) raises to $10 UTG. Short stack calls. I make it $40 from BB with AsKs. V calls, short stack goes all in for $10 more. Both call.

Flop $150: KhTh3s. I lead out for $80. V tank calls.
Turn $310: KhTh3s7h. I bet $120. V tank shoves for $200 more.
bet bigger flop. if you want to be that small OTT and scared of the flush, just go for x/c line. villain has less than pot size bet left so he jam, probably with Ah + pair hand since his 3bet calling range is so wide and full of speculative hands.
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01-05-2015 , 12:52 PM
Before results.
Call 1st hand bet turn aggree w ev1
2nd hand call
3rd hand fold pre
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