Feel like maybe this was standard, but curious what the ol Solver/math says is right.

$2-$100 spread-limit (blinds $1-$2, max you can raise is $100 over the previous bet).

There are 2 EP limps, and Button (stack $1000) raises to $12. I (stack $300) 3-bet to $44 with Qd9d. BB (stack $250) cold-calls, as does one of the limpers (stack $200) as does the Button.

Flop: AdTh4d (pot: $175, 4-ways)

I flop the second-nut flush draw and some backdoor straight draws.

Is there anything to do besides lead for the $100 max?

This is a very easy fold pre. You could argue it’s less objectionable in no limit to 3bet this hand very occasionally, however this hand is much more trashy given the spread limit nature of the game. With the 100 max bet your implied odds go way down and it becomes harder to generate fold equity with postflop barrels.

AP this is basically a 4way limit hold ‘em spot. In NLH I assume you’d be checking at high frequency OOP. But NLH solvers are gonna be pretty useless for guidance though. You are calling any bet and will get raised only occasionally. So it is probably not so horrible to cbet since you can always call a raise given the spread structure.

TBH you’re in a pretty crappy spot on the flop and none of your options are that great.

I like most CIE advice here especially what he said about preflop. Just tone down your oop preflop play a ton and your winrate should improve. Id bet 50, it gives you plus EV to hit just on the turn if anyone calls and you win no more bets when it does, you might get lucky and get 3 folds, and these players dont raise you much from the sounds of it. I would get yourself a book on limit poker, lots of concepts in there rarely discussed in NL about protecting your hand, betting draws etc. your game is basically no limitish until $100 goes into the pot then turns into a limit game.

Also. Im an idiot. Mods. I need some flair under my name that says no solver, adds nothing to the forum. Thanks.

I also agree with CIE, it's just button pressing doing this with no reads or info on anyone's range. I might do that if I know someone raises all his buttons with close to ATC and folds to 3bets, but the early limpers might become limp callers too which would make things more difficult later in the hand.

So either you're just making LOL posts.......or you really need to take some time to study. You're constantly making posts like "I'm sure this is XYZ." or "I'm sure the solver would do XYZ."

And they are almost never right.


A BTN iso range against two limpers is going to be something like the whole broadway square (minus stuff like KJo, QJo, TJo), 99, 88, A5s and some or all of the broadway 9Xs.

Q9s is horrible against this range. This is a fold pre. And sometimes you can call if stacks are deep enough and BTN plays horrible deep stacked. At a $100 spread limit, I'd imagine a call is very bad.


Flop is a pure check sitting at the worst position on the table with 3 players left to act.

RESULT: I bet $100. Big Blind announced “all-in” and shoved her chip stack in the middle; dealer realized she had about $225 and so gave her $25 back and announced a raise to $200. Everyone else folded to me, I told the BB “that’s ok we can get it all-in” and reraise her the last $25, she calls with AJo (with the Jd), but I brick out. Rebuy!

I think I just fold this off a 300$ stack. Not sure if it's different in spread limit though.

What was your reasoning for the 3b? Is button extremely wide here? The fact that three people called this huge 3b shows they don't fold to 3bs, and you want to 3b wider for value but not this wide. This is definitely a fold preflop. At this point you flopped a flush draw and you have all the nut Ax in your range - just bet 100 and pile it in, but I doubt they will fold any Ax. Overall I think you spewed this one - if you can 3b Q9 and get HU vs a weak range that's ideal, but if everyone is calling huge 3bs I think I would tighten up a little more than that.

Fold pre. If your games have people cold calling a 22bb bet pre, then tighten up your open range and start printing.

Probably. My preflop charts list Q9s as a 3-betting hand (as a bluff) in the SB vs a Button open (I call with 0% of my hands Button vs SB, I strictly 3-bet or fold). But perhaps I need to revise those due to the nature of spread-limit.

Well you’re 3betting an iso here, not a hand where it folds to button who steals and your 3b is a resteal.