Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
[3/6] trips on wet board limped pot [3/6] trips on wet board limped pot

08-31-2016 , 10:40 AM
Live game full ring table with regs.
Hero seens as LAG preflop and V1 tight.
Post flop Hero seen as tight but capable of bluffs.

Hero approx 500
V1 approx 500

V1 and hero had some history from previous night on a 3/6 table :
Hand 1. Full ring
hero (530) oop KKc, v1 (700) raised utg to 50 while usual raises are 25, Hero tank call to trap as hero put him on a premium pair,
Flop 9cTcJ, hero checks then tank call 110, turn 3c, hero donk pushes 370 (was hoping to fold AA w/o club or value QQc...) , V1 called with J trips , scooped the hand as hero did not improve.

Hand 2. Full ring
Everyone folds to hero
Hero (500) otb raise preflop 20 with 78o, Sb calls and V1 (1000) calls in BB, pot 60
Flop JJ7r
Check to hero , Cbet 30, sb folds, BB raises to 80, Hero reraises to 200,
BB tank and asks how much hero has behind, tank tank then call, turn 7, BB insta pushed and hero folds. (I put him on JQ/JT/J9 and wanted to represent AJ/KJ OTF ).. He pushed all his chips approx 700 knowing that hero has 300 left.. I dont know him enough to consider this as a tell..?


Current hand:
hand 3
6 handed, UTG calls, fold to V1 in SB, calls , hero in BB checks with 33, 15 in pot
Flop: 3c6c7d, Sb over bets 20 in 15, hero calls. Utg folds
Turn Jc, check check
River 2s , vilan bets 30 into 55, hero folds : good fold?!

Long time did not play poker (played 4 sessions live and 1 week online after being off for few years ), I feel myself levelling too much maybe?

Guess hand 1 reraise preflop is better choice and as played maybe fold flop?
[3/6] trips on wet board limped pot Quote
08-31-2016 , 10:50 AM
terrible fold. This must be a joke.
[3/6] trips on wet board limped pot Quote
08-31-2016 , 10:53 AM
HH1 I would definitely re-raise pre. He's UTG and raising big, he has a good hand so should be able to call your KK. If you raise to $150, pot is $300 going to the flop with $380 behind. Basically unless an ace flops, you make it $150 on flop, shove turn.

No offense, but current hand is a disaster. are you about $500 deep? Definitely raise flop, and if not at least bet turn. No reason to think he's overbetting this flop with a flush draw. As played, river is never a fold. At worse it's a call, and could see raise/folding for value.
[3/6] trips on wet board limped pot Quote
08-31-2016 , 12:55 PM
Unless you mean villain bets 300 into 55, this is a bizarre fold and I have no idea why you'd do such a thing. It is 5bb getting nearly 2 to 1 pot odds with a set on a 3 flush board.

What makes this more ridiculous is you suggest that you are happy 3betting a paired flop with weak 2pair no kicker to try to fold out trips in a blind vs BTN situation (!!!!) yet you won't raise a set on a 3 straight board because villain donks for 3.25bb! (Only an overbet if you removed rake already, 4*$6=$24)

Even your first hand is ludicrous. LAG raises to 8bb and you have KK with 83b and you just call! Reraise gii ASAP. If he has AA reload.

If you aren't levelling us with this thread then you are definitely levelling yourself in all these hands. I suggest a few sessions of ABC poker just to see what it is like not taking a weird line in every hand.
[3/6] trips on wet board limped pot Quote
08-31-2016 , 01:46 PM
Why in the world did you not raise the flop or bet the turn? Never folding river -- probably raising.

Probably a level, but I answered.
[3/6] trips on wet board limped pot Quote
09-01-2016 , 03:45 PM
Hand 1 / slow play I know it sucked, But I am the Loose player he is the tight so pocket TT+ obvious..

Hand 2 / blind vs btn full ring in casino 3 bet flop With 40 BB i should represent something to him no? Like AJ vs his JQ?

hand 3 / yes Auto level'ed for 6 BB... (Because I was assuming I am right less than 25% of the time so didn't call 30:85 .. I mean, what else could he value? Not raised flop/turn for the same reason, Overbet pot in 3way limped pot (not interesting?) first to act - like I put him on the straight since the beginning..
Assuming that SB/BB in full ring are barely active in a 3 way limped pot?
I mean, I would call any bet if I feel ahead but usually fold if behind... Unlike instead of putting him on a range i was feeling the straight 100%

Thanks for the advice for playing ABC poker I think I level myself too much -_-;
[3/6] trips on wet board limped pot Quote
09-01-2016 , 04:23 PM
2/10 on level/troll attempt.
[3/6] trips on wet board limped pot Quote
09-02-2016 , 11:14 AM
No I am a big fish taking weird lines and over thinking all the time unfortunately the hands actually happened .

Maybe I did not extract value.

I over rely on the sentence "don't get broke in unraised pot" that I translate to "don't lose money in unraised pot"

FYI I do not see value turn/river on unraised pot : who can pay us off?
3 straight on flop and call on turn with 3rd flush card filling in hum? And no strong high card on board?
[3/6] trips on wet board limped pot Quote
09-02-2016 , 11:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alsi
I over rely on the sentence "don't get broke in unraised pot" that I translate to "don't lose money in unraised pot"
So stop limping. Takes care of that problem. If you're afraid of raising 33, and you're also afraid of raising when you hit a set on a wet board, then fold pre.
[3/6] trips on wet board limped pot Quote
09-02-2016 , 12:11 PM
You could lead turn to catch unwary/badly played 2pairs and pairs AND as a semibluff to setup getting paid by a straight or flush if the river pairs the board.

I've done this, admittedly IP in a raised pot but it was 7 way. I hit a set of 9s on the button and SB leads out on a QT9ss flop. SB and I were 200bb deep. He got 2 calls and I, having sat next to him for a few hours felt he had flopped 2pair+ but not the nuts as he didn't seem totally happy. I elected to raise the flop to make any FDs and straight draws pay, get value from 2pair, setup a big payoff if I made a boat and to find out if I was up against a bigger set or better.

Only SB called, turn was a non-flush 8 and SB checked. I bet again thinking I can get a bit more value from 2pair and flush draws but that if he had a straight from the flop that he didn't want to get in with then he must have J8 and so wouldn't be able to raise me in case I had KJ. SB reluctantly called my 1/3rd pot turn bet.

River was a T no flush and SB checked again. I pushed my stack for around a PSB. SB hemmed and hawes and then called with J8 and said "when you raised flop and bet turn I thought yout had my hand." So a bit of aggression and deception paid off when it all went right for me but I think it would also have allowed me to get to showdown or bail out if the board had gone aginst me.

Thing is it wasn't wild deception or wildly over valuing my hand (like repping trips top kicker with 2pair no kicker). I was slightly over repping a strong hand with plenty of equity against any primary strength out there. That's the extent of my deceptive play. Slightly under repping, slightly over repping, sowing a few seeds of doubt and confusion but not turning the hand into chaos so I have no idea where my opponents are after they respond to my deceptive play and then end up levelling myself into crazy folds/calls/shoves.

Believe me I've taken plenty of extremely bizarre lines in my time and apart from causing much laughter they did my game no good whatsoever.
[3/6] trips on wet board limped pot Quote
09-02-2016 , 09:07 PM
Not afraid (not playing scared money and at my usual limit).
But dont like raising 22-55 ..because not comfortable to Cbet with if no hu

@ragequit it reminds me some omaha hands your play.

Maybe actually my mind was not yet cleared (after losing multiple hands vs vilain..)

What would you do if raise flop and got 3bet? Assume 3x raise u make and u get a 3x 3bet? Go for full catching and bluff when a flush comes out?
[3/6] trips on wet board limped pot Quote

      
m