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3/5 - K's vs UTG raiser 3/5 - K's vs UTG raiser

06-03-2014 , 08:41 AM
V1 (UTG): No reads, have not noticed him do anything noteworthy yet.
H (UTG+1): TAG image.
V2 (BTN): Tricky LAG regular, likes to see flops and peel.
Eff. Stacks: 565

V1 raises UTG to 15. H has KK and raises to 45. Folded to V2 on BTN who calls. The blinds fold. V1 calls.

Flop (138) 774

V1 donks 50. H thinks for awhile, then raises to 200. V2 folds. V1 calls.

Turn (538) 8

V2 immediately shoves for remaining 320.

H???
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06-03-2014 , 08:45 AM
Just flat flop...
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06-03-2014 , 10:19 AM
Why are you raising the turn?

By raising the flop you've committed yourself to the pot and you should call the turn, especially since the turn doesn't change anything? Unless you think villain would call the flop raise with 56 or a set of 8's?
As played I'd never fold the turn.

The flop bet does look like a block to see a cheap turn, so you probably have to raise it.
If we just call the money is still going in on the river anyways and we're giving free cards.

Now the question is, does this villain realize we're pot committed or not?
If he does we might find a fold somewhere, but probably not, expecting villain to show up with a lower over pair or a 4 a lot of the time.
If he doesn't realize we're pot committed it's an easy call.

Last edited by Yeodan; 06-03-2014 at 10:25 AM.
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06-03-2014 , 10:48 AM
If V has 65 here pay the man his money. Hes terrible and will lose it all to us in the long run.

Really if V has almost anything that's not a pp hes p rolly not very good. Im likely not folding. Also, flop raise seems fine if we plan to jam most turns when checked to.
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06-03-2014 , 11:33 AM
If you're sitting deeper then would advocate flatting flop but like the raise with idea to get stacks in on turn. If he's got 56 then so be it....I'm calling off here.
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06-03-2014 , 11:48 AM
The only non retarted hand you lose to is AA. Its a low board in a 3 way 3 bet pot 100bb deep. This is actually a fistpump call imo. If he has a set or straight he is functionally braindead. If he has AA then whatever. AA vs KK 100bb coolers are part of poker and go both ways. Just bink a K and move on.
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06-03-2014 , 11:52 AM
how did V2 fold flop and shove turn? Anyway, assuming V1 shoved turn, call and laugh when he bitches about how his jacks always lose.
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06-03-2014 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jlozan84
how did V2 fold flop and shove turn? Anyway, assuming V1 shoved turn,
Oops! You're right. It was V1 who shoved turn. Nice catch. Just a typo.
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