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3/5 250 BB Deep JJ vs Aggro 3/5 250 BB Deep JJ vs Aggro

01-20-2012 , 03:56 PM
Ok, I'm about to leave the game, my seat isn't great, I have pretty 2 of the best players at the casino on my left and we're all 200+bb deep. But in my last orbit I'm dealt JJ. The fishes nightmare eh.

First let me say my reads / history on the villain. He raised to $40 straight up in a pot with no limpers from like mid position. He had played a lot of pots, I'd say 50% in his first orbit. Then a hand comes down. He raises in pretty early position to $25. I call with A8cc on the button. Yeah, it's a loose call, but I thought this deep in position I can do a lot of things. He checks a 356 flop. I check back. Turn is a 9c giving me a flush draw. He checks I bet $35, he raises me $125. I peel one. River is a Ks and he bets $500, I just fold. Like what is repping there right? But I couldn't call. Despite all this I didn't think he was bad...

Anyways to the actual hand:
$1400 effective.

1 limper and I have 2 red Jacks. I raise to $20. Solid player on my left calls, villain in the SB calls, and limper calls. Flop is 752 with 2 hearts. Checks to me and I bet $60. Solid guy folds, and villain raises to $225.

What do you do here? Is it just a muck even given his image and reads? I took a lot of time with it.
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01-20-2012 , 04:24 PM
I'm debating between a call and a fold, I would call and revaluate turn due to reads. if a blank comes and he checks bet/fold turn. bet/fold river.
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01-20-2012 , 04:34 PM
cawll, whats the turn
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01-20-2012 , 06:45 PM
Turn is a ten of diamonds, he fires out $500, what do you do there?
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01-20-2012 , 08:12 PM
After calling the flop, I don't think you should fold the turn when it's essentially a blank and the guy is betting like he wants you to go away. At that point I'd have to go with it since he's pretty much got 75, a set, a flush draw, or nothing. He probably thinks you are a weak player and can be pushed off hands.

FWIW if you were planning on leaving I would just limp the JJ and play for set value only.. no need to play a huge pot if you are about to leave.
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01-20-2012 , 10:36 PM
Man this is a gross spot. Only hand I see him representing is 75 or a set, but does he really play those so fast on this board? Overpair to the board is more likely if hes spazz/aggro. I probably fold when he raises the flop, take my racks and bail. This pot is gonna get big and I don't wanna risk it with jacks in this situation. Save yourself the heartache of losing 200bb's on your last hand.

Also raise more pre so you dont have to worry about all sorts of random hands.

Last edited by maltbarley; 01-20-2012 at 10:42 PM.
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01-21-2012 , 12:07 AM
Just walk away. You already said last hand.
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01-21-2012 , 01:43 AM
Fold. You're leading into three players. If it was HU it'd be different. A lead 4 way isn't the same as a lead HU. You're going to be good often enough on the flop, but later streets will be a bitch unless you spike a j.
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01-21-2012 , 06:19 AM
Villain doesn't seem like the type to give up a pot, so I'm not folding that turn if I call the flop. I probably fold the flop though.
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01-21-2012 , 10:08 AM
Villain is aggrotard. Call flop and check shove turn.
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01-21-2012 , 11:38 AM
Bet/fold flop. Your equity against the range that raises you sucks, especially since your line of betting into a mw pot reps an over pair.
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