Friendly home game. No rake. I’m host. 1/2 blinds. 27 bounty on $10 per player. Game is 5 handed. All Donks who see too many flops turns and rivers. Villain is whale seen him make some very loose plays. Capable of folding no pair on river tho but also very loose pre. My image is way nittier than anybody else at table. I never limp. They always limp. I haven’t shown down many if any hands but def not caught bluffing today at all. Everybody’s has a beer or three in them.

I open 72suited UTG 5 handed to 19. My average open is closer to 7-9 lately so this is way bigger and was hoping to just take down pre. Most of my bets are getting respect today and people are noticing my nittiness and verbalizing it when I make a big bet getting responses like “he must have KK or AA.” But I did get away with a blind steal w 27 earlier in night opening to 15-18 ish. Villain calls cutoff everybody else folds. He’s got about 160-180 and I cover.

Flop KsTs3c

I bet 33. He calls quick. FYI I’m just pure air all no fd for me not even BD I don’t think.

Turn 6h

I check he quick checks behind.

River 8d

Hero remembers an old phrase by Phil Ivey that went something like “if you’re not capable of taking a $100 bill out of your pocket and lighting a match and burning it, then you’ll never succeed in poker” then I quickly slide out 20 reds.

Nobody better say fold preflop!

ban

ban me? no ban YOU!

Since he called the big raise, he probably has a good hand, and this flop hits that range hard. You are getting about 2-1 on the river bluff with the bounty. Hard to see what hands check the turn and bomb the river for value though.

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If you’re going to bluff the River, your sizing needs to be a shove. (It sounds like he has $120 behind—why would you only bet $100 with a value hand? Why would you let him keep $20 back?)

I actually think it’s a good runout to bluff (every draw missed and you unblock them all—you don’t have an A/Q/J spade or club), but your sizing is fishy. Either shove or just go 40% pot (the smaller amount just to fold out his As5s/QcJc type of hands—no need to risk more).

I figured the 20 wouldn’t make much difference. Ace hi and queen high call for pot is pretty whaley idk if he’d even think of doing that

Turning 72 faceup with your preflop sizing so obviously that even the whales at the table noticed is your problem here. If i was the whale id call with 9 high.

Everyone NOTICED youre a nit and NOTICED your huge sizing and announced it was probably KK AA, but then you showed 72, you dont think everyone at the table remembers that?

Also isnt OP the guy who berates everyone for being a nit?

Yeah, betting smallish seems best, given the odds with the bounty, and anything that folds has you beat. Checking the turn and bombing the river really mostly represents a bluff. It looks like either you missed the flop or missed your draw. If you had a value hand, why give all the draws a free card. It would make more sense to shove the turn or bet smallish and shove the river. If you had AA/KK/AK, as you represented preflop, you would never check the turn with the wet board. You might shove the turn with a strong draw also.

Nice pf size change probably solver approved.

We don't need to be solver approved in these games. You could vary raise size randomly to maybe mislead your opponents. I don't see a problem in varying, as long as you are somewhat balanced and aware of how your opponents perceive your range. You should have a very strong hand or 72.

It is unlikely the river improved your hand, as it is unlikely to improve any hand, but more so as you raised preflop, and even more so with the sizing. It just doesn't make sense to check the turn on a wet board and pot the brick river with shallow stacks. Any river bet does not make much sense for value, but the larger the less sense it makes. You are only representing a bluff. Sure you can hope he can't read hands at all and just gets scared by the big bet.

This guy doesn't fold easily and probably should have raised the flop shallow. Obviously, he should fold preflop. As indicated, versus your line, I might not fold any pair.

If you wanted to play solver approved opening sizes, then maybe raise everything to 5, which would not be optimal. Not sure how much the solvers work on open size or if the programmer enters them.

Buddy 27 game is on 5 handed. Pot is 40 extra for my hand. Going bigger than average is def the play here to be scarier. **** your 5 open. That will 97% of time get called by entire table. It’s live poker ffs and everybody’s boozing.

Why not just go all in pre?

there was some others with deeper stacks (300+)

Did Grimstar get banned for this thread? I hope it is temporary.

this hand is like quintessential when nits try to "play poker"

i think you lay yourself much much better odds (factoring in the bounty money) using small bets esp w no / reverse blockers

Yeah, just horrible river bet. Not sure if bet small or check is better. Hard to represent anything in that situation, and a big bet makes no sense, so may seem more like a bluff. Good call by villain, who played preflop and flop badly and in donk style.

Typical of low stakes to see big river bluffs that don't make much sense and often with tells and the player acting differently. They are sort of reasonable in that a big bet on the river is the easiest way to get loose players to fold.

Grimstar was posting a lot of hands here and sometimes getting into arguments with people. Not sure if that is what he got banned for.

I can see why Grimstar isn't playing high stakes anymore. The bounty is only $40. You have to play 72. However, I don't like a turn bet either. It is really hard to bet with air on a wet board. If it were a dry A or K high or low board, then it might be a good situation to barrel with 72 or whatever.

Raising larger is smart. Too bad you didnt do that with literally any hand other than 72. The error you made wasnt in this hand, it was in every other hand you played like a nit.

I realize OP used to play high stakes with smaller opens relative to blinds. However, 7-9 is not really a standard open in 1/2. 19 with no limpers in front is to the other extreme. I don't agree with never limping either when everyone is limping, but that is debatable.

There is a problem with 19 with 72 in that you build the pot. The bounty is only 40 and OP put in 152 chasing it. The cbet is probably correct with the bounty and the flop being K-high even though it is wet. However, hard to get a player like that to fold on a board like that.

You have to see a flop with 72, but maybe it is OK to fold the flop often if the situation is not good.

I hope they restore Grimstar's account. He is an interesting poster here and in the Ask Me Anything. There are people regularly posting worse hands here.

Nah man, good riddance. The guy polluted every thread with his trolling. "All-in pre, rep aces". Whatever, I for one am glad he's gone.

I'd really try to find people with equal financial means if you want a good game. Inviting a trust fund kid to a 1/2 game with people who actually work doesn't make for a great game.

In this case, you're trying to bluff someone who is likely to call you down. Also, know who profits from the 27 game? People who call down others when they seem to be full of it. Not the aggressor with 2/7.