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*** 2023 HSNL March Madness Squares Pool *** *** 2023 HSNL March Madness Squares Pool ***

03-15-2023 , 06:02 PM
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Timestamp: 2023-03-15 22:02:03 UTC
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03-15-2023 , 06:02 PM
I am excite.
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03-15-2023 , 06:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by marknfw
Here is your sequence:

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Timestamp: 2023-03-15 22:02:03 UTC

Thanks marknfw, this will be our Underdogs Line. I'll create the grid and printable pdf.

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Here's the PM I sent to Charder before we started the scramble:

Christian,

You're a 10 year veteran in this pool so I'm sending you the Seed List we're using this year to scramble the grid. You can ignore this PM -- we'll only need to refer back to it if I eff something up.

thx,
Adam

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SQUARES POOL SEED LIST
(alphabetical order starting with "R")

1 Rafter
2 Rafter
3 rharris13h
4 rharris13h
5 Rich/Hans
6 Richallmanson
7 scenario20
8 Simila
9 Steel
10 TB12
11 Thhhhom
12 Thhhhom
13 Thhhhom
14 Thhhhom
15 TimM846
16 TimM846
17 TimM846
18 Tommy2tyme
19 Tommy2tyme
20 txdome
21 txdome
22 YourDoom
23 YourDoom
24 Aaron
25 ackbleh
26 Admo
27 Admo
28 Admo
29 Admo
30 AGx19
31 AGx19
32 AGx19
33 Andrade
34 bad_carma
35 bad_carma
36 bad_carma
37 bad_carma
38 Bidz
39 Bidz
40 Big Three
41 BlackFr1day
42 BONUS
43 Buss
44 CalledDownLight
45 CalledDownLight
46 charder30
47 dabutterman
48 DanielPlainview
49 dw2006
50 erroneous
51 erroneous
52 erroneous
53 erroneous
54 erroneous
55 Fab Five
56 Gooch
57 h_ven
58 h_ven
59 h_ven
60 Hansen
61 hjackowi
62 hjackowi
63 hjackowi
64 hjackowi
65 homanga
66 JCF105
67 jermsgiants
68 jermsgiants
69 jimmyc123
70 jimmyc123
71 jimmyc123
72 jimmyc123
73 jimmyc123
74 jjbw
75 jjbw
76 jjbw2
77 Johnny Pancake
78 Johnny Pancake
79 Johnny Pancake
80 Johnny Pancake
81 kkcountry
82 kkcountry
83 kkcountry
84 Luckybacon13
85 Luckybacon13
86 Luckybacon13
87 marknfw
88 marknfw
89 mdot20
90 mdot20
91 Mitchell
92 nhfunkii
93 nhfunkii
94 nhfunkii
95 Nick
96 PemBalc
97 Powell
98 Powell
99 Powell
100 Powell
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03-15-2023 , 06:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by marknfw
I am excite.
I bet you randomized us some winners, good job partner
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03-15-2023 , 06:24 PM
::: SCRAMBLE STEP 6 :::
Matching up the Squares list to the Seed list and then sorting them by Square number:
(this is the grid)

1 Admo
2 YourDoom
3 TimM846
4 bad_carma
5 jermsgiants
6 Powell
7 Fab Five
8 marknfw
9 hjackowi
10 txdome
11 CalledDownLight
12 erroneous
13 Powell
14 erroneous
15 rharris13h
16 Tommy2tyme
17 erroneous
18 jimmyc123
19 Hansen
20 AGx19
21 jimmyc123
22 TimM846
23 Bidz
24 Powell
25 kkcountry
26 Powell
27 Gooch
28 dabutterman
29 Steel
30 hjackowi
31 AGx19
32 JCF105
33 Bidz
34 Admo
35 Rich/Hans
36 mdot20
37 Buss
38 rharris13h
39 AGx19
40 Rafter
41 Mitchell
42 jjbw2
43 Johnny Pancake
44 Admo
45 marknfw
46 BONUS
47 bad_carma
48 Tommy2tyme
49 Thhhhom
50 Thhhhom
51 Luckybacon13
52 Big Three
53 jimmyc123
54 Richallmanson
55 jimmyc123
56 Rafter
57 Aaron
58 BlackFr1day
59 h_ven
60 charder30
61 homanga
62 nhfunkii
63 Johnny Pancake
64 ackbleh
65 dw2006
66 CalledDownLight
67 bad_carma
68 TimM846
69 Johnny Pancake
70 Thhhhom
71 jjbw
72 jjbw
73 hjackowi
74 jimmyc123
75 YourDoom
76 nhfunkii
77 bad_carma
78 mdot20
79 erroneous
80 hjackowi
81 h_ven
82 Admo
83 DanielPlainview
84 Simila
85 txdome
86 jermsgiants
87 Johnny Pancake
88 kkcountry
89 erroneous
90 Luckybacon13
91 PemBalc
92 kkcountry
93 Andrade
94 scenario20
95 nhfunkii
96 Nick
97 TB12
98 h_ven
99 Luckybacon13
100 Thhhhom

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Here's a printable pdf of the squares grid:
2023 HSNL March Madness Squares Pool

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Notes:
  • Payouts are based on a game's final score, not end of regulation.
  • When two teams match up in the tournament with the same seed, we use the NCAA Selection Committee's pre-tournament ranking of all 68 teams to determine which team is on the favorite line and which is the underdog.



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03-16-2023 , 12:38 PM
So what's the process with the Bonus Baby? That amount gets spread to all the next round winners? Same round winners? What happens if that Son of a Bitch hits on the final, lol??
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03-16-2023 , 12:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Admo
We have one unsold square which will be a Bonus square that will carry over if it wins.
Forgot to close the loop on this. There is no bonus square.

Only selling 99 squares would have made all the payout amounts wonky so I bought the last square before we scrambled numbers. It was labelled "Bonus" in the seed list I sent to Charder, so that's why it's still labeled "Bonus" on the grid.
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03-27-2023 , 09:25 AM
I changed my mind about this stupid game and would like a refund please!
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04-01-2023 , 09:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bidz
I bet you randomized us some winners, good job partner
good job confirmed
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04-01-2023 , 10:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by marknfw
I changed my mind about this stupid game and would like a refund please!
Ask and we shall receive.
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04-12-2023 , 12:14 PM
Received my kick in the nuts payment!

Thanks for another year of running the best pool around!

Cheers
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04-14-2023 , 04:13 PM
Venmo shut me down. bastards.

Paid out 73.9k, owe 1.1k to nhfunkii & scenario20. PM'd asking for alt payment method that doesn't involve stamps or writing in cursive.

Notes for next year's pool:
  • Figure out new Venmo account rules or change Venmo to incoming only
  • On average we lose 8% of participants YoY
  • Decrease squares from $750 to $500 (had to buy $9k in squares to sell us out)

All: Feedback on the payout structure change from 1|1|2|3|6|12 to 0.5|1|3|5|7|10?
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04-14-2023 , 08:59 PM
I like having R1 be equal to buy in. Freerolling is good. Sorry you had to come out of pocket more than you wanted. I would have voted for having unbought squares carry over to the next round or spread that money to same round winners.
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04-17-2023 , 04:18 PM
PM'd my PayPal to you Admo. Thanks man
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04-29-2023 , 03:59 AM
Thanks for running the pool.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Admo

All: Feedback on the payout structure change from 1|1|2|3|6|12 to 0.5|1|3|5|7|10?
The old structure is comfortable. Hit a game early, then freeroll.

But we're supposed to be gamblers, right? This is vig free sweat and variance. Gambool, baby. Keep the new structure.
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01-16-2024 , 11:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Admo
Venmo shut me down. bastards.

Paid out 73.9k, owe 1.1k to nhfunkii & scenario20. PM'd asking for alt payment method that doesn't involve stamps or writing in cursive.

Notes for next year's pool:
  • Figure out new Venmo account rules or change Venmo to incoming only
  • On average we lose 8% of participants YoY
  • Decrease squares from $750 to $500 (had to buy $9k in squares to sell us out)

All: Feedback on the payout structure change from 1|1|2|3|6|12 to 0.5|1|3|5|7|10?
For the unbought squares, could just make them 'ghost' squares and those winnings go back into the pool. For every square not hit, it raises the value of those that do. Just a thought.
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01-16-2024 , 12:32 PM
That's how I've always done it, unbought become "ghosts".
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02-08-2024 , 01:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Admo
Venmo shut me down. bastards.

Paid out 73.9k, owe 1.1k to nhfunkii & scenario20. PM'd asking for alt payment method that doesn't involve stamps or writing in cursive.

Notes for next year's pool:
  • Figure out new Venmo account rules or change Venmo to incoming only
  • On average we lose 8% of participants YoY
  • Decrease squares from $750 to $500 (had to buy $9k in squares to sell us out)

All: Feedback on the payout structure change from 1|1|2|3|6|12 to 0.5|1|3|5|7|10?
if it's too much of a pain to change the win structure, could pool together the ghost squares and split between the entries who had a winning square at any point

Quote:
Originally Posted by jjbw
For the unbought squares, could just make them 'ghost' squares and those winnings go back into the pool. For every square not hit, it raises the value of those that do. Just a thought.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MojoAG
That's how I've always done it, unbought become "ghosts".
Quote:
Originally Posted by marknfw
I like having R1 be equal to buy in. Freerolling is good. Sorry you had to come out of pocket more than you wanted. I would have voted for having unbought squares carry over to the next round or spread that money to same round winners.
I could dig the idea of a rollover to next round(s). Just depends on how much time @Admo has to commit to the game.

Thanks again for running @Admo - this is one of the greatest, and personal favorite sweats of our group. Could commit to around 10 squares at the $500 level. Hate that you had to take on so much of the board...or you could've hit for a ton and it was worth it lmao

Let me know when you're ready to fire up again - already have a couple folks asking about it.
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02-14-2024 , 07:38 PM
This year's March Madness Squares Pool is up and running.
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