okay so ill start off by saying that I am posting this for a friend, I also played in the hand, as V1

quick images:
hero - TAG decent player
V1 - Good reg LAG
v2 - reg fish

images:
hero - young white male, TAG image been playing fairly snug not played any hands of major interest
V1 - young white male, LAG style been involved in a lot of pots, opens frequently when folded to him, been playing fairly tight in early position.
V2 - young Asian female, has not been playing too long, seems fairly tight passive, knows dealers very well assumed to be a reg.

stacks + position:
hero(utg+2) ~200
V1(utg+1) ~1000
V2(SB) ~ 145

delt to Hero: KQ
V1 opens to 15 (standard raise size), Hero calls, folds to SB who calls, BB folds

pot:$45
flop: 10 9 4
V1 bets $30 (V1 c-bets most flops), hero calls, V2 calls

pot:$135
turn: 10 9 4 Q
V1 checks, hero bets $50, V2 jams for 100, V1 folds, hero calls.

I will assume here that the bet OTT should be all in, otherwise b/c seems standard as played, or should we be checking back flop and seeing a turn card and hope to get paid off by 10's or if the flush hits worse flushes.

also should the flop be a raise

thanks for the feedback guys, sorry if this hand is a little trivial

Flop could be a raise or a call, I tend to lean towards a call unless Hero thinks V1 actually has something and can pay off our all in with some kind of pair or lay down a hand that is beating us.

Calling gets V2 to put in extra money which is good for our monster draw. Calling also lets V1 continue bluffing if V2 folds, which sets up a nice all in on the turn.

On the turn the bet is fine, a jam is ok but I think a bet is better as it lets worse Q's and scared T's jam, not likely but possible. I think we are probably beat when she jams the turn but our hand is wayyy too strong to ever fold for $50 more in this huge pot. Hero should thank V1 for making a big pot for him and with no solid reads on V1 Hero probably played this hand correctly.

3bet preflop.
I would float flop because we have position.
On the turn, V1 has given up the pot, so we would want to bet for value vs V2. I would certainly bet atleast $90 here.

why? since V1 is giving up as you say, and V2 only has $100 left, it seems like a shove or smaller bet (like $40-50) to induce a spaz raise from worse to me.

Not betting smaller vs tight passive players because they will just call with their draw and fold on a missed river....lost of value. Also V2 still have V1 to act which makes her more likely to just flat a small bet rather than shoving over you.
$90 from their $100 stack is like online 3-button...looks less threatening than a shove on your part.

not too sure why we would 3bet preflop

You a lag who is bullying the table. What better semi-bluff hand than KQs to 3bet you lightish and stop your antics? Plus if you call (which I would expect you to thats why I am 3betting you with high value cards) we are ahead aton of your range here, and you will fold to 80% of cbets.

Re: turn.
Its a protected pot on a wet board. Theres really no reason for you to check the turn with a monster here. Even if you were going for a check-raise with a set, we still have outs and we are only 100bb deep. Getting it in here vs your probably set will not hurt that bad.

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V1 is described as playing fairly tight from EP, and raised UTG+1. 3 betting is burning money, you're barely ahead of anything in his range, and I doubt V1 folds to a cbet that often.

Overall nice hand. I may bet more OTT. But not more than like $75-$80

I think the LAG style of V1 is centered around late position and raising trash hands like A2o and Q6s when 2 or 3 people limp to play in position.

And hero would know this

V1 described himself as fairly tight from EP. Do we know that from "hero's" perspective? V1 also says he has been fairly active and laggy.
If "hero" knows V1 is very tight in EP, then I would fold KQs.

V1 and hero are friends... and have very good grasps on each others ranges from their positions, hero probably expects V1's range to be A10+ KJ+ 77+

Raise the flop.

Put max pressure on any one pair hands behind that can play the turn almost perfectly IP.

LAG superstar has to fold a massive part of his range, can spazz out with worse draws and could fold lots of things we are flipping against which is good for us.

As played turn is totally standard.

do NOT 3B preflop. a call is fine here. You should bet ~100 on the flop.

I just shove flop. Most of the time we pick up the $75 which is fine since our stack is only $185. We also price out the bigger flush draw, which is the most likely draw for SB to have if SB is on a draw. Most regs are likely to call with any suited A in this spot, but often fold QJ, 87 pre OOP.

Not sure about sizing, but flop is clearly a raise, even with a tighter EP open + cbet range:


Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

24,750 games 0.002 secs 12,375,000 games/sec

Board: Ts 9c 4s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 44.949% 44.84% 00.11% 11098 27.00 { KsQs }
Hand 1: 55.051% 54.94% 00.11% 13598 27.00 { 99+, AsJs }

Although this is not a great cbet board MW, he's still probably c-betting against described Hero and V2, so his betting range should be considerably wider.

I don't raise pre against someone who is tight from early position. This is a monster flop for us so I raise here. As played on turn is fine and obviously you call the extra 50