Yeah, I know this is the live poker section. But this was one of the most interesting hands I've played at 200NL, the online parts of 2+2 are pretty dead, and I wanted to see what people thought of this hand.

This was a hand I played a couple of nights ago, late in the night where everyone is quite deep. I probably have an aggro image, around 26 VPIP 21 PFR 10% 3-bet.

What do you think my thought process/reasoning is?

What do you think UTG's reshove range is? What should he be folding?

What do you think SB's calling range is? What can he hero-fold given the action??

Fwiw, it took me quite a while to reach my decision, about 20-25 seconds. UTG took about 15-20 seconds to reshove. Will posts results after some discussion.

$2 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 137.93 BB (VPIP: 21.91, PFR: 14.61, 3Bet Preflop: 7.28, Hands: 372)
Hero (BB): 271.98 BB
UTG: 285.45 BB (VPIP: 29.05, PFR: 23.65, 3Bet Preflop: 11.48, Hands: 157)
CO: 232.35 BB (VPIP: 24.30, PFR: 15.89, 3Bet Preflop: 8.89, Hands: 109)
BTN: 300.55 BB (VPIP: 31.21, PFR: 21.99, 3Bet Preflop: 8.26, Hands: 291)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has x x

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, SB raises to 13 BB, Hero raises to 271.98 BB and is all-in, UTG raises to 285.45 BB and is all-in, fold, SB calls 124.93 BB and is all-in

Flop: (684.88 BB, 3 players) 2 7 T

Turn: (684.88 BB, 3 players) 9

River: (684.88 BB, 3 players) 7

Sounds like UTG had AA or KK, SB most likely had AA if UTG had KK.

I wouldn't have shoved all in but your play was definitely max EV for this situation.

Cool situation though

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i dont play much 6max, but here goes.

whats your reasoning/thought process? not enough info. im guessing it's player dependent, but you didn't post any info about the players so maybe not. i think you have AA/KK here and you want to put in a 4bet but at the same time shoving looks almost weaker than 4betting to 40bb or some other amount.

i think UTG reshove range here should be QQ+.

i think SB should be calling with QQ+ and hero folding up to QQ sometimes.

again im sure these ranges are probably wrong/too tight for 6max.

I don't have anything to go off other than the players' stats since I 4-table. The players seem to be reggish/very aggro at this table, 1 or 2 good regs and the others passive regfish. Tbh I probably would have moved tables since there weren't any fish/whales, but I tend to not leave tables where I'm already deep. Idk, it feels like I have momentum, and people start playing back at you less with 3-bets/opening the SB vs your BB IMO. Also, I don't think I'm particularly excellent at playing deep, but I do think I make less mistakes deep than most other players do.

I think you guys shouldn't give too much weight to this being 6-max/online. Imo this is a once in a blue moon situation, whether it'd be live/6-max/online.

You have SB weighted more narrow value even in a standard squeeze spot, so you gotta overbet the nuts in a prime perceived resqueeze spot and let SB level himself. UTG recognizes this/has a legit enough hand to ISO you with SB folding super often/being unable to overcall so he jams. SB tanks and may/may not be fully aware of the levels but still has a hand that anitblocks AK, and is getting a nice price for all 5 cards.

And you lose to utg 99 :/

I think this is FPS and you're leveling yourself. You are narrowing ranges too much with your sizing and therefore missing value. I would snap fold QQ/AKs and I don't think this is exploitable. I would fold KK too, knowing you don't have QQ and not worried about being exploited by you overbluffing with Ax blocker hands because who does that ever with this sizing?

You fold KK here vs a guy who 3/4-bets bluffs quite a bit, is capable of 5-bet jamming as a bluff, and is pretty aggro/borderline spewy?? I think at this specific table I was around 28/25, 13% 3-bet, 8-10% 4-bet at the time. Stats I gave in OP are my stats over 20k hand sample

Of course, there was a lot of leveling going on in this hand among all of us. Regardless of what I had, this is FPS & totally unconventional. That's what made it interesting. I wouldn't have posted my first hand here in the live poker section of the forum if this was just a standard spot. Imo I play very standard poker for the most part but also at times take very non-standard lines.

Lots of mixed and interesting opinions here so far.

Might have gotten very different answers to these questions, even from browni, had you not listed your hand. It would have been an interesting exercise to see how disciplined lol live poker players would have responded. The best part is lol online poker players stacked off too.

I listed my hand? It says x x

And you guys dont know what we had yet . Will post results within a few days

Thread title lol

Oh ****.... . Sigh. Think responses and this thread would have been so interesting if I took that part out.

Results: UTG tank reshoved QQ and SB called with KK. Board ran super clean, and the whole time was basically pleading for no Q lol. Biggest pot of my career, and still didn't completely get me out of my downswing at the time despite winning.

Yeah, I'm sure Browni's response would have been way different if I had ommitted results in the thread title. C'mon Browni, there's no way you can just snap-fold KK/QQ here in-game without seeing my hole cards, esp given my super aggro image and super fishy play.

I thought UTG's reshove was pretty loose, and that SB could have found a hero-fold. But who knows, I play a little nittier when deep and I'm not a deep-stack specialist

Seriously though, I was wondering how half the posters in the thread were so certain I had aces LOL

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