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200max bluff spot, is this ok? 200max bluff spot, is this ok?

03-30-2015 , 04:49 PM
Table is average 1/2 table. Maybe a little bit on the slow and actionless side. My image is winning and tight abc type stuff. I've Been at table for hours.

V sb. (400)- average. Limp calls too much. Not super aggressive. No hero calls. Just typical. He has been at table for about 5 or 6 orbits.

Hero- cutoff- (400)- young male mid 20s

V limps. One other limp. Hero rises QTo. Everyone calls. 5 to flop.

Flop (60)

7s 4s 7c.

Checks around.

Turn (60)

7s 4s 7c 8c.

Checks to hero. Hero bet 30. V calls.

River (120)

7s 4s 7c 8c Ac

V checks. Hero bet 75.

We cool with this? Anyone got some input?
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03-30-2015 , 05:28 PM
if he's not hero calling, it's probably ok. but you could probably size it smaller. if he's not going to call 75, he probably isnt calling 50.

his most likely hands are clubs, missed spades, 8x, some 4x, and 96s, T9s. can't see him having too much 7x here. but he does sometimes have Ax too, which kinda makes this spot not the most ideal.
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03-30-2015 , 05:40 PM
Meh. Like johnny said, clubs just got there and AsXs just got there. Your bet is going to fold out his 4s, maybe his 8s, and his pocket 55, 66. Borderline spot lacking visual cues. Probably +EV against this particular villain, but not a fantastic spot.
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03-30-2015 , 05:48 PM
forgot 55 and 66, thanks dave.
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03-30-2015 , 06:11 PM
If AsXs just got there, do you include all the KsJs type hands that whiffed in his range also?
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03-30-2015 , 06:27 PM
Bluffing turn is spew.

If you want to get him to fold Tc, bet 100. If you don't think that's a good idea, I like 75 (maybe you can get away with 60 if he's not a station) to get him to fold a 7.
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03-31-2015 , 01:01 AM
Preflop, raise more or limp along. You might get one player to fold to $12, but even 4 ways with unsuited broadway is not ideal. Minimum $15, ideally $20.

As played, betting the flop seems bad so the check is fine but we need to understand that by checking, it's unlikely we'll be able to win this pot without hitting a pair. With 4 other players any scare card you hit is likely to actually hit someone else.

Turn bet seems bad. What are you repping? A big club draw? 4s full?

The river is not a great card to bluff given that a large portion of V's range is Ace high spade draws and club draws. You're also repping a very small range of value hands here. Aces full and maybe two flushes? This is likely not something a typical player will realize, however. I agree that $55-$60 will accomplish the same as $75. 7s are not folding, nor is a straight. Most villains will call with an Ace here too IMO.

This hand is so much easier to play with only 2-3 going to the flop.
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