2 pair on wet board vs tag
Join Date: Jan 2009
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villain 1 in hand is pretty bad. an older lady who likes to gamble, will bet her draws, bet sizing is awful, calling station, relatively unimportant in the HH. She has ~$100.
Villain 2 in the had plays a lot of hand pf, and pretty standard tag post flop. We talk poker on occasion, in my opinion he overvalues implied odds and calls to often hoping to stack someone on a later street. Other than that plays pretty standard poker. he has about $220
hero viewed as a winning player, capable of making moves but mostly a tag. i have them both covered.
Hand:
Limp, Villain 2 limps in EP, 2 more limps, Villain 1 completes in SB, I check in BB with K6o.
Flop (12) KhJs6s
Villain 1 donks for 7, I make it 25, Villain 2 calls and so does villain 1.
Turn (85)Qh
Villain 1 checks, i bet 55, villain 2 shoves for about 140 more (~200 total), villain 1 folds.
My play?
Thoughts?
i don't have the Ks or the 6h
Join Date: Oct 2010
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Fold, I dont think he shoves a draw here, I think he has KQ, ATss, T9ss.
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Your raise otf in a limp pot is not big enough. Your in a hand with a calling station. Make it 35+, ott you don't beat anything just bet/fold.
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Fold, the line by villain seems to be a made hand, by your description of him.
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Seems like a hand better than yours a lot of the time. I don't think V called flop with anything below top pair or a mega draw given action from you and V1 (and yours looks pretty strong).
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Preflop looks obvious.
I raise more on the flop, probably closer to $35. It offers suckier 2:1 odds for drawing hands (this is quite a drawy board); our raise to $25 actually offers very appetizing >3:1 odds to villain. Plus, it builds pot to ~$80 with V1 having only $55 left (so easy turn shove), whereas in $25 case pot will be $60 on turn with villain having $75 left (a more difficult shove).
I hate life when V2 calls our raise, and this turn card ain't exactly the best. But there are still some draws / hands we beat (especially against moron V1) so I probably also bet the turn. I insta fold to V2's raise (all we're beating is a bluff / semi-bluff as there is no way he is doing this with simply TP, right?).
ETA: Just read that I totally agree with a PB post. End is nigh. Find faith. Repent. Repent.
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Easy fold. V plays standard, thus a raise OTT vs. your strong line is usually not a draw (nor QJ).
I think you played the hand well ... assuming you fold now.
Join Date: Jan 2011
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Totally a fold as played. His range seems standard, so he is crushing you here with a strait, set, or kq.
Flop bet needs to be more on this board. I would make it at least double the pot for your reraise.
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Grunch.
Well played if you folded. Against more standard villains, I'd consider checking that particular turn card. But since you're up against a couple of apparent draw monkeys, b/f feels right.