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2 pair on a wet board facing agression. 1st hand. 2 pair on a wet board facing agression. 1st hand.

03-29-2015 , 05:15 PM
Playing £1/£1. I've just sat down UTG and straddle. This is my local casino and I know most regs by name.
V1 (EP): unknown late 30s rec looking playing. No reads, nothing special. (£120)

V2(BTN): unknown early 40s chatty player, by the sounds of table talk he was on a heater. Seemed recreational by the way he was talking about the game. (Covers)

Hero: early 20s, hoodie, headphones viewed as TAG by the regs, probably going to be viewed as what I am by the villains (£150)

We're dealt 76o (no hearts) in the straddle, folds to V1 who calls, folds to V2 that raises to £5 while saying "that's a raise size" I call, V1 calls.

Flop 754hh. (£17)

I check, V1 checks, V2 bets £10, I call, V1 raises to £35, V2 calls, I call.

When V1 raises I have a tough time working out his c/r range. I except it to be sets, overpairs and 2 pairs pretty often. Since we have decent implied equity vs this range and given the price we have to call. However I expect V2 to be holding 88-AA quite often here. QQ-AA maybe make it bigger pre but he seems to have very little technical knowledge about the game and maybe doesn't want people to fold. This also reinforces my thinking about 88-JJ since he may views them as vulnerable hands and won't want to make the pot massive.

Turn 6h (£122)

V1 checks, V2 bets £50, we call, V1 folds.

I expect V1 to continue with his nutted range here as c/r on 2 streets is a really weird line to take with anything. I can't really put anyone on a tonne of 8s for the straight so I totally discount that from their ranges. I was looking at V1 as V2 was betting and as I was tanking and I got a body language read that he wasn't happy with his hand. We're holding a blocker to top set and he can probably get away from sets on the turn card anyway. I suspect V2 to be holding an over pair here so often I feel it's criminal to fold this turn.

River Qc £222

I check, villain shoves for about £75 effective, hero calls.

As the card came down V2 said "queen" just before it was turned over which was weird but that makes me think he doesn't have QQ.

By this point I believe he has over pairs about 80% of the time and flushes and straights about 20% of the time. He rarely has sets since this would be a horrible way to play it IP and I suspect he 3bets the flop on such a wet board so I can cross that off his range. When he calls the action on the flop I suspect he only has Ax and Kx of hearts since he can be dominated so often, but I'm not sure if he can fold any hearts on the flop.

I would like thoughts on the hand please. It was so gross but I feel that I'm good there often enough for it to be profitable.
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03-29-2015 , 08:26 PM
Bet flop. Go super cautious from there
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03-30-2015 , 04:11 AM
Since I except him to have a lot of pairs and over cards I feel that betting the flop opens me to either get raised by overpairs then I'm getting bad odds to continue OOP or fold out the best hand when he gets away from his over cards.
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03-30-2015 , 06:04 AM
Wouldn't raising OTF be better if you were calling the first bet with the intention of calling a raise? Gives you 2 ways to win, and you have a better idea of what they're holding. A call feels like draws and overpairs. A re-raise is likely a set or made straight.
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03-30-2015 , 09:26 AM
Didn't have the intention of calling it but price is too good and we're closing the action. Playing the hand to cracking a preflop monster so didn't want to overvalue my draw on the flop
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03-30-2015 , 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by pur3decided
I would like thoughts on the hand please. It was so gross but I feel that I'm good there often enough for it to be profitable.
If you lost your stack playing a crappy hand (probably) because you were straddling, isn't that what's noteworthy about this hand?

Having a bunch of people over the internet trying to guess your Villain's cards isn't going to help because next time the Villain will have different cards but you'll still be playing junky cards.

On the turn, assuming the Villains have two random hands, you're going to lose this pot over 61% of the time. If the Villains have looked at their cards you're going to win this pot even less than 39% of the time
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03-30-2015 , 10:00 AM
Don't straddle, fold pre as we're playing a **** hand oop in a multi way pot.

You want us to validate that we would also go broke here, but we should probably talk about what we're doing preflop.

Otf I don't like donking out into two players and I'm probably folding to the check raise. Our straight outs are 2 fewer due to hearts, how much equity do you think we really have here?
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03-30-2015 , 11:47 AM
I agree with not straddling but I was told it was what was common practice on the table (but not mandatory) and with this being my local game I don't want to be the objector.

In an ideal world I would've been UTG and able to fold. But considering I am in the straddle isn't 76 a bit too good to fold (albeit very bottom of my range). The usual open size in these 1/1 games is £6-£8 when the straddle is in play so that makes me think that the small bet is a weaker hand (low-medium pairs, unsuited broadway, unsuited connectors) I figured that my 2p is ahead of most of his value betting range which is overpairs, flushes and straights.
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