Hand 1 - Villain is to my left - and he is playing too wide. Kind of running hot, with his nonsense hands like 76o and J7 hitting 2 pairs and what not, but he only has about $250 because he donks it off on other hands and high $7 rake. Stacks are mixed from $100 - $1000 - I have about $500, so it makes pre-flop annoying, but people aren't 3betting so I guess it doesn't mater.

I'm in HJ with KJ and call (I 3bet last hand and was thinking of doing it again but wanted to play this one multiway) against (LJ $300) $15 open - (Villain CO $250) calls - A few others call and we off to a flop.

AT8 $90~
Checks to me I go $40
Villain calls - rest fold

Turn 6 $170
I just jam, as it 's basically a pot sized bet left.


Hand 2
Table breaks and I'm at a brand new table at hand 4 or 5 so not a whole lot of reads but stacks are pretty deep. I saw Villain playing most of the hands, and had a wide range of hands, being on a roller coaster. J7 - T9o and what not.

I get 78 and go $10 in HJ $500 deep effective
CO calls
BTN calls
BB calls

$40 774
I go $15
fold
BTN goes $50
fold
I call

Turn 9
I check
BTN goes $100
I call

River J
I check
BTN jams
I fold - Can't really do much on that run out - but was thinking of just folding the turn, as it's unlikely i'm ever good.

Hand 1 - Aggressive route but that's fine. You have fold equity, some pod odds and 12 outs or more if he doesn't have an ace. It's a higher variance route but that's what a bankroll is for. It can also make you money on later streets. Will the guy fold? The average person is pretty stupid and it's 1/3 so who knows. Sometimes you can't expect people to be rational.

The only other thing you could do in hand 2 is re-raise the flop. Not saying it would have worked out well but I don't see issues iwth your play. He could have had 88,99,1010, jj and been betting because of his over pair. It's also 1/3 so he could have A7 or who knows what. You played it fine. Just a bad runout. There is a good argument for folding the turn to cut your losses.

I think Hand 1 should be a jam vs most players who are tight/aggressive but I would venture to say that this guy has an Ace a lot - he's over calling a $40 bet in a multiway spot. Could have had merit to check/call turn as he likely won't jam his whole stack in and he may even check back with a weak ace that he just can't fold because he has top pair.

Sometimes it's best to just make your hand. I don't mind getting it in on the flop but that turn is pretty bad, and even vs an ace I'll only have 27-30% equity. On the flop side, is he will probably fold a T which would be cool.

H1:

Sigh, I remember $7 max rakes, back in good ol' 2017. (i.e. I think you'll be hard pressed to find rakes smaller than $7 nowadays, no?)

I probably make a nitty fold preflop but I perhaps overdo things staying out of trouble.

I might go smaller on the flop but whatever. Anyone can easily be checking an Ax to the raiser and they ain't folding to any single bet, so let's do this as cheap as possible, imo.

With just a PSB left I'm fine with a jam on the turn with all our equity.

GcluelessaggrotardnoobG

H2:

I probably open fold preflop a lot or otherwise limp in attempting to get into a cheap pot.

I'd pretty much never want to get my stacks in with this kicker, so I don't think checking the flop is horrendous. I guess I'm sigh calling the raiser too and seeing what happens.

Not getting very good odds on the turn, I think this is likely a fold now that the main semi-bluff came in. Although I guess 65 could be in the mix? And a wild guy might have looser 7x? But don't a lot of those hands shut down on this turn?

And also check/folding the river.

GcluelessNLnoobG

You make money in low stakes poker by playing big pots because villians call with wide ranges and suck post flop. Going to be hard to get any good spots if you keep folding all your few playable hands in the session. You aren't going to get 3bet enough and even if you do, these hands aren't terrible in 3bet pots.

The 7c8c is 50/50 but the KdJd is must play spot. Look how much equity I flopped in a multiway pot where I set myself to win a massive stack.

It's going to be really hard to win more than 10bb an hour if you fold all your pre-flop playable hands especially when your postflop edge is massive.

hand 1 is a must 3b pre. cold calling the seat right after the PFR is not a winning proposition even with a hand as good as this.

hand 2 its tough to do it but i think checking flop wins more than betting. you get more money from small pairs that bet after you thinking they're good. those same hands typically fold to a bet multiway. you can then underrep your hand a bit and c/c. against aggros sometimes you can even stack them when they have a weak hand and they think you have AK.

The more we have a massive skill advantage over our opponents postflop, the more we can mix it up preflop. So everyone will have to accurately assess their own skillz level against their opponents skillz level and make the appropriate decisions. If you're crushing your game, you've probably accurately assessed the situation. My guess is most overestimate their postflop edge.

With < 100bb stacks (like HH1) with 5x opens, I disagree that these hands aren't terrible in 3bet pots.

I'll admit the KJdd spot is probably close even though I err on the side of nittery. But at no time did we set ourselves up to win a "massive" stack; they were both < 100bbs (and it cost us 6% of our stack to get in there against the shorter one, not horrific, but not completely awesome either, keeping in mind we're likely not profitable as this reaches 10%).

Again, this really comes down to accurate your own assessment is of your postflop edge. I actually don't think I have that big of an edge postflop on a lot of opponents, especially difficult ones, especially deep, especially OOP, so I play to my own wheelhouse. But yeah, if you've got a massive edge in these situations then you should be mixing it up a lot more than I do preflop. Just make sure you've assessed correctly, or else that pursuit of 10bb+/hr might actually cost you.

GcluelessNLnoobG

Hand 1 is 50/50 call or 3bet. I wanted a multi-way pot with a hand that flops well. But from GTO is ether or - so to always 3bet KJs Id be saying you’re 3betting too wide.