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2 barrel bluff against decent player 2 barrel bluff against decent player

09-08-2014 , 02:25 PM
Hi guys I played an interesting hand at a 2/5 NL and would like some feedback on the way I approached this hand.

Starting stacks:

Hero: $1300
Villain: $533

On a straddled button Villain opens to $25 in MP1. MP2 calls and Hero raises to $100 in the CO holding A K. It gets folded around to Villain who flats. MP2 folds.

The flop comes: 2 5 6 $237 in pot

Villain checks. Hero bets $100. Villain calls.

The turn brings a 7 $437 in pot

Villain checks. So far villain's range looks like AQs+ and TT+. With Villain having $333 behind, I figured there is some fold equity left in this hand so I opted to bet $250 to get villain to fold AKs, TT, JJ, and maybe QQ. Even if I get called, I most likely still have an A or a K as live outs. Prior to this hand, villain would limp call my opening bets OOP a high percentage of the time but would also open from EP with decent holdings. He would also chase draws post-flop. He has showed down strong holdings as well so he somewhat has an idea of pre-flop hand selection and plays okay post-flop.

Thanks for the feedback guys!
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09-08-2014 , 02:39 PM
I probably just give up now. He isn't folding TT or JJ if you shove. Check it back and hope for an A or K to hit.
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09-08-2014 , 02:41 PM
Don't think this is a good card to barrel. Hard to get people to lay down overpairs, and the turn doesn't change anything. If he thought he was ahead OTF, he still should think he's ahead.
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09-08-2014 , 03:03 PM
I'd bet more on the flop. Your bets looks like AK. You'd need some kind of read on V to double barrel on this board.
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09-08-2014 , 03:47 PM
Not sure, prob would check behind. This 2/5 guy is terrible btw. No one good calls 20% off their stack pf OOP.

Edit, My guess is that villain has 77-99 here.
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09-08-2014 , 06:10 PM
Flop bet is too small but I'd just check it.

I'd give up on turn. With certain dynamics, double barreling a card like this can be profitable. Some villains will call one street with TT and then believe we have JJ+ if we fire twice. But we need better reads to assess that.
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09-16-2014 , 04:35 PM
I don't mind your bet if you would have expected him to shove all small-medium pairs on the flop
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09-16-2014 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by wewa925
I probably just give up now. He isn't folding TT or JJ if you shove. Check it back and hope for an A or K to hit.
+1. Given stack sizes, V probably sees himself as committed, especially given the brick on the turn. V check/shove the turn w/ his pp?
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09-16-2014 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by matzah_ball
Flop bet is too small but I'd just check it.

I'd give up on turn. With certain dynamics, double barreling a card like this can be profitable. Some villains will call one street with TT and then believe we have JJ+ if we fire twice. But we need better reads to assess that.
Flop bet size is pretty much correct (although 120 is okay too), since it sets up a pot size shove on the turn.
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09-16-2014 , 07:12 PM
This is partially read dependent and partially a question of your table image.

For instance, if villain thinks you could be 3betting sc's sometimes, you are more likely to get a fold.

If he thinks AQ, AJ, KQ type hands are in your 3betting range, he never folds a pair here.

If you are a TAG sorta guy, yeow. This would be a pretty ballsy bet imo. He calls your 3bet, calls your cbet. Whatever you're betting, he doesn't seem bothered by it, and that 7 ott doesn't seem to change anything.

If you have a TAG image, given your read on villain, I would check and see what shakes out OTR. You might hook up, or you might draw something that would be good to bluff, like a diamond if you think he might be afraid of the flush.
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09-16-2014 , 08:44 PM
Grunch.

Eh... Against most players this is going to be a spew most of the time. The turn really isn't a credible barrel card for you. It's actually probably one of the worst. You also don't have much equity against his range either and will need him to be folding a lot to just break even. I would like this play more if you had turned a flush draw or something. You really have to know that Villain can make "big folds" for this to be profitable. Most players won't fold 99-JJ in this spot though. Also, If your going to bet, just go all-in.
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09-16-2014 , 09:45 PM
Check back the turn and river.

But if he bets the river, raise him.
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09-16-2014 , 11:54 PM
Stacks are not deep.

You need to make a decision on the flop.

If your plan was to cbet once and give up unimproved on the turn, then nice hand.

If your plan was to go with it due to stack sizes, then cbet bigger on the flop and jam the turn.

edit: I didn't see that you're in position. You can check this back no problem.
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09-17-2014 , 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by MIB211
Don't think this is a good card to barrel. Hard to get people to lay down overpairs, and the turn doesn't change anything. If he thought he was ahead OTF, he still should think he's ahead.
This.
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