History: I sat down at the table about 40 minutes ago and started raising PF relentlessly after I realized how tight everyone at my table is playing, probably raising about half of all hands dealt to me.

Hero UTG (~$650)

V1 BTN (~$900) 50 year old white guy. Loose-passive calling station fish for the most part. Over values top pair, and has been l/c or l/f around 50% of all hands. I have seen him get aggressive a few times when he had a good hand.

Dealt to Hero: A10

Pre-flop:
Hero raises to $20, MP1 and MP2 both call (not usual or expected), V1 re-raises to $50 total, Hero calls, both MP1 and 2 fold.

I know, not a good place to call spot to call a 3bet in, but it was basically a min-raise and I expected both other players to call.

Flop ($140): K66
Hero checks, V1 checks.

Turn ($140): 7
Hero checks, V1 checks.

River ($140): 3
Hero bets $80, V1 raises All-in, Hero...?

This is a tough spot. But I would fish for information, if I don't get an answer, I would flash the ace of hearts, if I still can't find weakness/strength, then its sigh fold. I can't pay the guy off, who raises then checks all the way to the river and shove. I won't ever do it.

The PF call of the 3bet OOP is pretty horrible. I know it's basically a minraise, but what's your plan OTF when you hit TP? Say MP1 and 2 called pre as you had expected. Now the pot is $200. How happy are you going to be if it's an Ace-high flop or a T-high flop?

If you're trying to flop a miracle, miracles don't flop nearly enough to justify the call.

Don't forget also that you said V1 is a LAP station fish. This guy's not going to 3betting you with A9 or JT. Oh, and you saw him get aggressive when he had a good hand. I think it's a clear fold pre, especially when unsuited.

OTR, I don't think V1's overshoving here without a boat. You have the key card, so at best V1 has something like QQx.

And when there's a 4-flush on the board, most players are immediately worried about who has the Ace. A LAP station isn't going to overshove with the Q. He's just going to call like stations do.

It's just so much more likely he has KK (especially when he 3bet pre), and is praying you have the A and can't let it go.

If the bolded is your read, it is a snap fold. Guess what he has?

And fold pre.

V1 has kings full.

Also I'm not a fan of opening ATo in a game that's going to get many callers and we're oop in a giant pot.

We're also representing we have at least a decent sized flush and we're getting raised on, and we have the ace of hearts in our hand... I don't see how we can be good especially since villain doesn't know we have the ace of hearts

Pot is $820. need to call 520 more.. ~1.58 to 1, need to be good roughly 38.75% of the time.. I don't see that happening..

Snap fold. I don't think it's a tough spot. A passive player just put $550 into a pot of $250 and you have a bluff catcher that is not even at the top of your range.

As you said, AT is one of the worst hands to call a 3bet with out of position, as your are dominated so often. I would rather call it with JTs, or even 67s.

not folding pre, id expect to go multi way here a lot, and fold river.

As said, fold pre OOP but as played fold river for the reasons he is passive, he only has KK here.

Grunch

Loose passive player 3 bets pre, i am folding AT every time OOP.

As played, looks like he has KK here just about every time. There are not too many players out there at this level that are bluff raising the river. Is there an off chance he has QQ with the Qh? yes, but i would say he over shoves with it maybe less than 5% of the time.

Hmm, okay, it seems I made a pretty big blunder here. I basically though to myself "I haz the nut flush" and then said out loud "wow I can only lose to kings full, I call". Of course V1 had KK and I lost. I know I'm good enough to make a fold here but it just didn't happen. I think I need to think more about what hand he can have that can play that way before I call. As some 1 stated before, QhQx and that's a maybe at best.

Is my call any better after seeing him do this:

CO raises to $20, Villain calls from the BTN, Hero calls from the BB with 77

Flop: Js10s7h
Hero check, CO checks, Villain bets $70, Hero raises to $225, CO folds, Villain ships All-in for $700 total, Hero calls.

Villain shows AdAc

no

No and it's pretty standard to go broke on that board with a non spade aces.

Wow...who plays like this in their A game? This is horrid.

Now to the hand.

Like Bart said, it really doesn't matter what you have in these spots. Villain is repping fullhouse and nothing less, especially when you're holding the ace.

It's quite simple, do you think he has it or he doesn't. That's it.

this villian is never ever bluffing in this spot, right?
it's not 'does he have it or not'. he's got it. he's prolly not turning AA or a heart into a bluff here.
it's just not a bluffcatching situation, anyways, and thats all the nut flush is here is a bluff catcher.

Is it? Idk about you, but my c/r range on that board vs that bet size from villain has AA absolutely destroyed. Something like JJ, 1010, 77, J10, 98, Ks10s, AsQs, AsKs, KsQs.

eh, i guess so now after checking stove.

still calling here is pretty atrocious.

my reaction after reading professor's comment was that he left a word out. i would not be stacking off here without the A

Bad villans will broke here after getting check raised simply because he has two aces. Not standered at all. But thats how a loose pasive fish call station plays any two aces on 95% of boards. Especially when villan sees you raise 50% of hands preflop.
But on op hand. He always a KK. Sigh. fold. NH. good bet.