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2/5nl,good spot to isolate preflop? 2/5nl,good spot to isolate preflop?

03-10-2014 , 08:39 PM
2/5nl 9-handed table. UTG is a very bad stationy fish and loses his money all night long.Now this guy got $130 left and UTG 1 is a loose bad old regular who happens to be the biggest winner tonight and has about $3k at this point. UTG guy straddles ,UTG 1 calls,two callers in mp and tight nitty hero calls with Ah9h in BT($1.2k stack). UTG then shoves for $130,UTG 1 snap calls,folds to hero ?

Last edited by maplestar; 03-10-2014 at 08:45 PM.
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03-10-2014 , 08:56 PM
Are you asking for +1 or yourself?
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03-10-2014 , 08:58 PM
I think this is a fold. No reason to go crazy with Axs here.
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03-10-2014 , 10:03 PM
* Overlimping from LP/BU is just ass.
* Limping a straddle is just ass
* Limping A9s is just ass
* Overlimping a straddle with A9s on the button is triple ass

As played, fold ffs. You've a speculative hand that requires decent pot odds and even better implied odds to play profitably, neither of which you possess here.

You describe UTG as "stationy", but your going to try to blow him off the hand? Or is he the one you want to Iso.
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03-10-2014 , 10:10 PM
This is not a good spot to raise for isolation because your chances of beating UTG are not good enough to balance the cases where UTG+1 does have a big hand. I'm giving UTG a very wide shove range here, something like all but the worst 25% of hands. Given that, you are ahead of UTGs range and with the dead money your getting the odds you need to play UTG. You have to put UTG on a pretty tight range before you not getting the odds with that much dead money. However, your not getting the odds you need by a huge factor even against a very wide range because he is likely to have two live cards and if you allow UTG+1 to be flatting with a big hand occasionally you can be in bad shape. If you have enough history with UTG+1 to know he never has a big hand here and will fold if you raise, then it's not a bad play, but in general just fold.

You probably shouldn't be limping in here at all. With the short stack straddling, you have to expect a high chance of him shoving. If nobody else comes along your in ones of those situations where your probably getting the odds to call but it's razor thin and should be avoided to begin with. If UTG is super passive preflop then limping is OK, but in that case you need to fold to his shove anyway.
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03-10-2014 , 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by bulls_horn
* Overlimping from LP/BU is just ass.
* Limping a straddle is just ass
* Limping A9s is just ass
* Overlimping a straddle with A9s on the button is triple ass

As played, fold ffs. You've a speculative hand that requires decent pot odds and even better implied odds to play profitably, neither of which you possess here.

You describe UTG as "stationy", but your going to try to blow him off the hand? Or is he the one you want to Iso.
please explain to me why limping in BT with A 9 over 3 or 4 limpers this deep(200BB effective stack vs at least 3 limpers) is bad play?? BTW, i certainly muck a9o vs many limpers if i cant thin the field down to 1 or 2 players.With suited ace and good implied odds to overflush field callers, i think that over limping is way better than raising and getting 3 callers at this loose table.Also,i'm not sure if UTG would shove out of his staddle,so i decide to play this hand with other deep limpers.

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