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05-08-2011 , 09:35 PM
little history with villain other than one strange hand several months ago (haven't seen him since). the hand in reference was that i had 3bet him several times in the session, although with strong holdings, and he was getting pissed. finally i had kk (both had ~1500 stacks) and 3bet him again, he 4bets me kinda small and i flat. flop comes T36r, he bets $200 into like $500, i jam, he tank folds AA face up (wtf!?) saying that since i flatted his 4bet he was sure i had TT and flopped a set. yeah, ok.

hero (hj) - $900 TT
villain (bb) - $700

1 limp, hero raises to $30, villain calls, 1 other calls.

flop: $100 - 3 players

Q T 5

villain checks, limper checks, hero bets $75, villain calls, limper folds.

turn: $250 - 2 players

K

villain checks, hero checks
(probably a terrible check, but this guy isn't a callign station, much moreso weak/tight and i figured that if i bet $150-$200 on the turn he probably folds and i'd like to keep him around with a ton of other likely hands he could have that i have crushed. ruling out KK and QQ which i would expect him to 3bet, i effectively have the 3rd nuts)

river: $250 - 2 players

3

villain checks, hero bets $125, villain shoves for about $450 on top. hero????
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05-08-2011 , 09:48 PM
call river.

and bet turn for value. but as played you have to call now. afterall, you induced this with your turn check!
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05-08-2011 , 10:03 PM
Ya, your hand is so underrepped at this point.... not to mention, if villian hits the K on the turn to have you beat with AJ exactly, or KK exactly (which is really unlikely given his line at this point) I dont' see him checking the turn AND checking into you on the river because he risks you checking behind tons of showdown value type hands and must know he would be missing way too much value! Wouldn't be surprised to see him check shove all his bluff holdings here(and hands he thinks have you crushed like all his 2 pair combos) as a way to win the hand based on how underrepped you have played yours if he truly is a competent player.
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05-08-2011 , 11:31 PM
^ this. I lean towards kx/2p holdings making the bulk of his shove range here, but you are pretty under repped and the check might make him think you have a middle pair, q or missed flush.
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05-09-2011 , 01:26 AM
Your turn check is horrible.

Call as played.
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05-09-2011 , 03:13 AM
I have no clue what villain is repping with a weird line that check/call flop, check/check turn, CRAI on river...

Truly no clue. You must have seen this weird line from villain before in the past, it just doesn't make any logical sense. Unless villain perceives you as a spewing monkey that would almost always bet river when the action is checked to you, or maybe he just watched Rounders last night and decided that the check/call three streets and CRAI is the "pro" line.

I'll call because I am confused as hell.
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05-09-2011 , 05:01 AM
as played insta call because he can be doing this with alot of 2 pair type hands and outright bluffs because you didn't rep your hand as being real strong. villain is most likely putting you on a 1 pair type hand like AK or AQ

next time bet the turn for value and play for stacks.
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05-09-2011 , 05:32 AM
weak-tights don't check-shove the river with anything you beat. fold.
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05-09-2011 , 05:41 AM
Insta call. I suspect he's missed a draw and is trying to buy pot. Or your check on turn made you look weaker than you are and he thinks you're scared of the K. He probably puts you on AQ.
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05-09-2011 , 10:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Madmaniac21
Your turn check is horrible.

Call as played.


this
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05-09-2011 , 10:37 AM
I think asjs shows up here. The turn check just messes everyhing up for the both of you. But I see the turn card as a bad one and you check it bc he's not a calling station? So take the pot down there. He's not calling the river without having you beat and almost every river card is bad when he gets this far. We give a free card to combo draws.
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05-09-2011 , 10:46 AM
without the FD I wouldn't mind the turn check. The bet/check/bet line is usually pretty weak so you're almost guaranteed to get called if he has ANYTHING on the river. All you have to do is dodge an A or J and you're sitting pretty. However the FD and SD is too risky to give a free card to. you need to be betting 1/2-2/3 pot OTT and charge those draws.

As played this is a snap call.
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