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07-26-2013 , 03:19 PM

jay_got_JJ's

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Hero (BB) $715 : pretty strong TAG image at the table. the table is very soft, and hero is the strongest player at the table.

Villain (Button) $488 : plays pretty loose preflop, raising preflop fairly often from late position. however, plays pretty straight forward post flop. the previous time I saw him get it in postflop he had a full house.

Preflop ($14) (UTG+1 posts)
UTG+1 checks his option
HJ limps
CO limps
V raise to $20
SB calls
H calls with A

UTG+1, HJ, & CO call

Flop ($124) K

H leads out $75 (I lead out not realizing I had the A

, if this changes how I should've played the hand)
V calls

Turn ($274) 3

H bets $125
V moves all in $393
H ?

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07-26-2013 , 03:27 PM

TheGoodman

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I'd 3bet pre. I wouldn't put it past him to have K3, 33 (with a heart), etc. Or he could be slowplaying KK, 99, or 55, thinking his shove on the turn was small enough to merit a call. You're probably behind, but you're getting 3:1 odds and only need 4:1 for the flush, plus there's a small chance that TPTK is good here. It's close, but I'd still probably lay it down if he's as stingy about getting all his chips in as you said.

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07-26-2013 , 03:30 PM

playertee

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Originally Posted by gerodive

How is 33 in his range

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07-26-2013 , 03:39 PM

samo

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I'd fold since his descript is: "plays pretty straight forward post flop". Thus, I'd elim a hand like KxQh that we beat. Only 9 outs, ~18% vs. min equity req of ~25%.

Pre - I'd 3b this type of V.

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07-26-2013 , 03:45 PM

TheGoodman

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Originally Posted by playertee

How is 33 in his range

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It'd be a darn stupid call on the flop if he's chasing a draw, but I've seen dumber. I agree it's not likely though.

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07-26-2013 , 03:45 PM

Marquoz

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You call yourself a "strong TAG" but you don't three bet a button raise holding AK? Uh....

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07-26-2013 , 04:14 PM

jay_got_JJ's

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Originally Posted by Marquoz

You call yourself a "strong TAG" but you don't three bet a button raise holding AK? Uh....

lol you're right. i should've def 3bet pre. felt like just flatting, hoping for some deception. was hoping to play a 3way pot at most by flatting. however i failed to factor in the players behind me calling.

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07-26-2013 , 04:20 PM

Marquoz

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Yeah, heads up and against a regular opponent against whom I had some history, the "flatting for deception" argument has some merit. Here, though, in what's likely to be a very multiway pot where you'll be in the worst possible position, you have to pop it and pop it strong. You want to thin the field at minimum, and there's nothing wrong with taking it down pre.

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07-26-2013 , 04:51 PM

quesuerte

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Originally Posted by Marquoz

So this. This is literally the easiest 3! in the history.

Don't think I lead, it actually looks super strong and there are just not that many hands we get value from. I'd rather encourage a bad cbet.

As played it is pretty close. How sis you range villain on his flop call. I think checking turn is an option. Tough to get three streets from worse.

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07-26-2013 , 05:05 PM

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jay_got_JJ's

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yeah def should've been a 3bet pre for sure. and in hindsight, I probably would've preferred check calling since I have the Ah, and to prevent being blown off the hand

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