I'm going to post this one as a pseodo-PAHWM.

2/5NL on a Sat afternoon. New table that just opened about 20 mins ago. Hero has not yet plaed a hand . 40s WG in slacks and T. Unknown to V.

V is 20s Asian LAG. Has good rep among the other regs. Seems solid and very positionally aware. Has been raising Limper's in position, getting one caller and cbetting to take it down with great regularity.

Effective stack $520

Two limpers to V who makes it $30 in the CO. SB folds and hero in BB looks down at black 9s.

Hero?

Nine one time, set-mining OOP Multi-way, may get squeezed by Limpeys aware of V's LP play and have to give it up.

I'd just flat since I would expect him to call with a lot of his range IP if we 3bet and playing OOP against someone sticky w/9's in a 3bet pot will be tough.

Against a solid aware player I'm just gonna flat (not necessarily set-mine) here. 3!ing is a fine play too. But I tend to be a variance nit

Just flat here.

FWIW , no one is limp/three betting this guy. They are all "adjusting" by calling OOP note and hoping to smash a flop.

$105. Bet flop/shove turn unless board is horrible. It's hard to make a pair.

1.) You didn't mention in your description if he hero has his shirt tucked in or not.

2.) If you flat, do you think the limpers come along for the ride?

99 against a solid LAG OOP isn't a lot of fun in a 3bet pot. At the same time if we flat and the limpers come along we are going to be set mining only due to our position.

3bet to $75-85.

I don't see much value in 3-betting this player. Just call and play poker.

1),Yes , tucked in.

2) Yes , if we flat at least one limper is likely coming along.

I assume tucked in

Flat please

My only issue with flatting is that being OOP with 1-2 more players in the pot limits our ability to do much postflop. If I thought we could get heads up with no 3bet I would feel better about a flat.

What has been the standard sizing for v to open and per limper?

I'd like to have some reads on the limpers because that can easily affect my decision.

Problem with just calling is we don't even know if the limpers will come along. Villain is lag but is a solid lag player, and there is no mention of how often he will continue to barrel if we call the flop with a set. If we raise the flop with our set, he likely folds with our nitty image.

I think I like 3-betting. We are OOP which makes our raise look even stronger, have a nitty image, villain has a wide range and we'll take it down a lot before the flop. If villain calls, we could still hit a set in a large pot, or take it down with a c-bet.

Edit: Okay, I didn't read the last 7 responses before I posted this (a bunch of people responded pretty quickly) so it looks like at least a limper will come along. Meh, unless it's a bad player I'd feel much better about both coming along if I was going to call. I like 3-betting the more I think about it.

If that were the case, then wouldn't the best move be to check-raise the 88% of the flops where we don't have a set?

Good question. I'm not sure about that if a limper or two is likely to come along. I think calling and planning a c/r when we miss will put us in trickier spots on the flop.

Just throwing that hypothetical out there. Also, when we do flop a set we can also lead rather than just check-raise. We can also lead when we don't flop a set.

^I did think about a c/r on the flop earlier. I'm curious what others think. When it works we'll win more. I really do think we're in a good situation when we 3-bet pf though.

For those advocating a flat , what line are you advocating on various board types? Particularly those that are relatively dry with one or two over card ( most common, IMO)

This is consistent with his standard sizing so far.

We could 3 bet for value here hoping to isolate. Seeing as we haven't played a hand 3 betting here out of BB looks very strong and our V's range is so big and he is going to call the raise with any hand he bets with including any suited Ax, smaller pair or suited connectors. If we are lucky enough to isolate him we should be ready to continue any flop that his given range doesn't connect strongly with. (Basically any flop without 2 middle cards or 2 face cards).

Alternatively,
Flatting here is also fine. If we flat its likely that both limpers come along as well. Lucky for us this makes post flop decisions very easy because if we miss, you c/f and if we hit our set being OOP doesn't really matter.

In this particular situation I would flat seeing as we don't have much info on our V besides that he likes to apply pressure to weak players. We risk 30 and stand to win much more on the right board in a multiway pot.

I didn't go into plan on the flop because there are so many different flops and we don't know if the limpers call or fold yet.

Hi garlick,
Super ez flat here.

Agree with this.

Never 3 betting as I don't want to play a 3 bet pot oop against the competent lag with close to the bottom of our 3 betting range.

I want the fish to come along.

I don't 3 betting is -ev but I think flatting is more +ev and he ce the optimal line in this case.

Flat AINEC. If it's not a flat then fold (which I wouldn't do). 3bet is aids.