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2/5NL 3BP, villain takes a weird line 2/5NL 3BP, villain takes a weird line

11-26-2011 , 09:01 AM
Effective stacks ~$800

TdTh
4 limpers, I raise to $35
BB 3bets to $100, I call

963ss

Flop checks through


Turn Js
He checks. I bet $110, he check raises me to $300, hero?

No real reads at this point, but I have been really active.
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11-26-2011 , 09:35 PM
Bump
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11-26-2011 , 11:04 PM
I fold in this spot. I think if you don't fold here, you're playing for stacks on the river almost all the time, and you don't have the ten of spades as a draw.

At this point I'd be putting him on an overpair, set, ace high flush with AQ or AK, or air.

I don't think air represents a large enough part of villain's range here to justify calling, and the problem is that even if you think villain has air, a lot of their air combinations contain a spade which still give villain's air range a lot of equity against you.

The only river you'll be comfortable seeing is a ten, but that's only two outs.

At the end of the day, I'm just not that comfortable putting 140BB in a 3bet pot with a pair of tens on the turn, three spades and an overcard on the board.
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11-27-2011 , 12:11 AM
Bet flop. He rarely has an over pair when he checks.

As played his range is flushes, JJ and AsKx, AsQx. I would fold since there is no dynamic to bluffcatch here. Alternatively call turn fold river if you really think he is semibluffing (most guys won't ship river with the naked ace). But fold is clearly best IMO without reads.
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11-27-2011 , 12:29 AM
Unless u were playing solely for set value, u got a good flop for TT. I would bet the flop as there are few turn cards that are clean. This will also help define his hand.

As played, his c/c/r line seems fishy, but I would give him the benefit of the doubt and fold until I had more reads.
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11-27-2011 , 12:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mist
Effective stacks ~$800

TdTh
4 limpers, I raise to $35
BB 3bets to $100, I call

963ss

Flop checks through


Turn Js
He checks. I bet $110, he check raises me to $300, hero?

No real reads at this point, but I have been really active.
Flop raise should be larger pre first time around 40+.

Without a read, this is a fold pre flop to 3 bet.

Why did you call pre flop? If you were set mining, you did not have the proper odds to do so, and once the flop hits and you miss , you should be done with the hand hoping to get to show down as cheaply as possible, or releasing the hand if you face heat from the villain.

If you called to play post flop based on your read on villain (which is non existent), you should b/f the flop when you get a good flop like this and V checks to you.

And why are you betting the turn when you checked back the flop?

You played this hand as if you were clicking buttons without any clear plan pre or post.

AP, I am not really sure what V can have. It is a very weird line he is taking. J hits your percieved range more than it hits his but he is ch/raising you.

Without a clear read/history/dynamic between villain and hero, I just fold and move on.
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11-27-2011 , 12:36 AM
Pf is fine. I'd bet the flop, at least 150. There's just too many cards that suck that can come on the turn to float.

As played, check behind on the turn. You're now looking to get to showdown as cheap as possible and keep his range as wide as possible. Once raised, you're done. Fold.
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11-27-2011 , 01:22 AM
You should know what you were going to do when you got raised before you made the bet.

Why are you betting? I'm not really sure if your turning your hand into a bluff or not.
If so, i can't think of a better hand that would fold, or a worse one that would call for that matter; (naked flush draw I guess),
As far as his raise, and what It could mean, I would just muck my hand and not worry about it.

Last edited by stampler; 11-27-2011 at 01:28 AM.
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