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2/5NL 3 pair on turn 2/5NL 3 pair on turn

11-26-2011 , 09:07 AM
Effective stacks ~$700
UTG raises to $25, 3 callers I call Ad3d

Flop A36r I check UTG bets $60, 3folds, I call
Turn 6, I check UTG bets $150. Hero?

Villain is a young female who takes weird barreling spots. Not really a thinking player.
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11-26-2011 , 09:35 PM
Bump
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11-26-2011 , 10:38 PM
I like the call preflop, as you have pretty good implieds if you hit a sneaky two pair, flush, or straight.

I think on the turn it's a pretty easy check/fold as all you can beat in this spot is complete air.

It doesn't seem likely that a UTG preflop raiser will barrel into 4 opponents with air on the flop, so I would be narrowing her range to pretty much AQ+

It's an unfortunate turn for you but I think in this spot there's almost nothing you can do about it other than fold.

If you were to call, you have to check almost every river and unless it's another ace for a chop or a three I can't see you being able to call a river bet anyway, so most of the time even if you call you're pretty likely to face a river bet and just be throwing away the $150 anyway.
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11-27-2011 , 01:04 AM
What is your position pre?

AP, c/r the flop.

turn action is really villain dependent. It is a fold against some, call against others.
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11-27-2011 , 01:34 AM
shove turn
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11-27-2011 , 02:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Morris King
shove turn
Your post count allows me to give you the benefit of the doubt that this is a level.
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11-27-2011 , 04:09 AM
It seems that hero is in the blinds so i think its a fold pre
AP, definate c/r flop
AP, c/f turn (probally but u know villain better than i do)
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11-27-2011 , 04:24 AM
Fold. Bad turn for you. Villian raised UTG, is firing a second barrel, and your two pair hand got weaker.
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11-27-2011 , 06:37 AM
Fold turn unless you believe she is bluffing here with a very high frequency. Most people would c/c or c/f KK- here, so she has a good ace or air and air is unlikely for utg raiser.
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11-27-2011 , 06:38 AM
Also, I am OK c/c flop on such a dry board. What was your turn plan on a blank?
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11-27-2011 , 06:49 AM
Fold pre flop. Whats your plan when you
just flop an ace?
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11-27-2011 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SirRawrsALot
Your post count allows me to give you the benefit of the doubt that this is a level.
Well, it's extremely unlikely villain has an ace or a 6. More likely we are looking at 10-10 through K-K. If we open shove, villlain thinks we are bluffing, and seriously has to consider calling with a wide range of hands we have beat. It's a value bet.
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11-27-2011 , 02:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Morris King
Well, it's extremely unlikely villain has an ace or a 6. More likely we are looking at 10-10 through K-K. If we open shove, villlain thinks we are bluffing, and seriously has to consider calling with a wide range of hands we have beat. It's a value bet.
Why is it unlikely that she has an A?

Why would she barrel TT-KK on this board wit this sizing?

I completely disagree with your conclusion but curious to hear your reasoning to see if i am missing something...
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11-27-2011 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Setsy
Why is it unlikely that she has an A?

Why would she barrel TT-KK on this board wit this sizing?

I completely disagree with your conclusion but curious to hear your reasoning to see if i am missing something...
Because any player is mathematically unlikely to hit top pair on the flop, also when the extra 6 comes out they are super-unlikely to have a 6? Duh...

She would barrel TT-KK on this board because she knows that you are also unlikely to have an Ace or a 6. Also, per OP "Villain is a young female who takes weird barreling spots. Not really a thinking player."
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11-28-2011 , 11:11 AM
i was going to check/raise basically any non Q or K turn...didn't even think about folding until the 6 came lol. i know this girl barrels a lot and at the time i didn't think about calling turn...she ended up having KK lol, guess NH ma'm
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