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Originally Posted by gjpure
Questions: Is shoving here spewing? Why or why not?
I smell a rat, but it's not spew by any means. I don't buy that he has Ax and the possibility he is bluffing with trash is irrelevant. Let's just say in general, against your typical limp/rr range these days, shoving AK is a winner as long as there's some dead money in the pot.
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Is just checking the BB ok here.
Doubt it. If you raise pre, villains' calling ranges will be at least somewhat enriched with flush draws and Ax, dominated broadways like KJ. Fish love those things, and those are the hands you will attack. If you limp in, you dilute out the hands that pay you off, which can be a problem if these goofballs are willing to float with some crappy pair they spiked OTF. It's not that you want to fold out worse, it's that you don't want to get into a pair-drawing contest against a bunch of fish. I think that's what people mean when they say, don't go broke in a limped pot. To be clear, if you double-barrel intelligently you can still make hay against these guys; the guy who called with 72o on a J74 board will probably fold to a turn bet no matter what. On a 7-high flop, not so much. But if you raise pre, your 2/5-sized turn bets will make them pee their pants, it can only help.
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Does raising to 40 have merit even if we get called in multiple spots?
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Yeah although be careful, if you bet too much you will induce optimal play, meaning you will scare away the weak hands and only get called by premiums. The threshold is different for every table. This table is kinda nuts, yeah go ahead and bet it strong. You're deep stacked, play it like a 2/5 game. Show em who's boss.
Last edited by AbqDave; 09-28-2015 at 09:44 AM.