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2/5: weird line by a Lag. Facing overbet shove 2/5: weird line by a Lag. Facing overbet shove

11-11-2016 , 04:18 PM
V is a Laggy player. I feel he is more of a button clicking guy than a solid lag.
But he has some sort of good reads and can be tricky some times.

He opens wide and can be 3bet light.


HH

UTG limps, Hero raise AKo from UTG + 1 to 25, MP calls, V 3bets to 100 from SB. Hero calls, others fold.

Flop KdTd8h (230)

V bets 120, hero calls

Turn 9c (470)

V has 280 left, V checks, hero shoves, he tank calls with 79hh.
River is a J. V doubles up from Hero.


This hand.

eff 550
Every folds, one limper, V raises to 25 from Button

Hero calls from BB with QdTd


flop 5h7s8s (65)
check check

turn Tc (65)
Hero leads 40, V quickly raise to 135, hero calls.

river 3d (335)
Hero checks, V quickly shoves for 390. Hero?


V never slow plays big hand on that board with a valued hand like sets, 2p, straights. Maybe he can take 69ss, 46ss this line as it is so nutty on the flop.

V should be c-betting the majority of his 9x on the flop that he opens on the button as well. Most of 9x is at least two overs + guttor. Some have BDFD euqity, hands like 9J, 9T have more outs draw to straight.
The most possible simply turn raise bluff hand 9x is not existing as most of then would bet the flop.

My original plan was to call most blank river, but when V shoves fast into the pot, I felt so gross.

I can't put him on a range of bluff, but I can put him on a very narrow range of value hands 69ss, 46ss.

I just puke folded. I was not sure if I was right.
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11-11-2016 , 04:53 PM
Seems like a good spot for the light three bet preflop. Maybe you could have gotten a fold from 69s. Otherwise, it seems like a good read and good fold.
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11-11-2016 , 05:13 PM
I'm probably just checking the turn against the described V if I'm not willing to call this one down

This hand is a great example of why you can fold good hands like this from the blinds. Being OOP made the turn and river tough
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11-11-2016 , 05:13 PM
not folding river if i elected to call turn

Turn can be folded tho, we block semibluffs QJ, Q9....

I likely fold pre

First hand is probably a shove pre
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11-11-2016 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by The Rumor
I'm probably just checking the turn against the described V if I'm not willing to call this one down
And this too
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11-11-2016 , 05:17 PM
one other point - you have position on this guy over 3/4 of the time in full ring, no reason to try to outplay them from the BB. The way to take advantage of this guy is to induce him into clicking the bet button into you.
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11-11-2016 , 05:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by timmay28
not folding river if i elected to call turn

Turn can be folded tho, we block semibluffs QJ, Q9....

I likely fold pre

First hand is probably a shove pre

the first hand V was new to me. We had no history and he 3bet from SB against UTG+1 open. I gave him a little credit at that moment. If we played a bit, that was an easy shove.


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11-11-2016 , 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by paulhamr
Seems like a good spot for the light three bet preflop. Maybe you could have gotten a fold from 69s. Otherwise, it seems like a good read and good fold.
I don't like to throw QJs, QTs, TJs, T9s type of hands thrown into my 3bet range as these hands plays well multiway. I was expecting limper to call pre but he did not.

I would 3bet light with A2s - A5s, ATo+, AQs+, TT+, 67s, 78s against light button opening.
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11-11-2016 , 08:52 PM
Check/call the turn.
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11-11-2016 , 10:56 PM
Bet less ott or just ck-f, fold to the raise. AP fold. Kind of a weird line if he's on tilt.
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