2/5

H: should have a pretty poor image overall. Can’t turn over a winner. I think all people at the table should know I play pretty solid overall

I think I’m the effective stack at 550

V: pretty loose but is capable of folding. Can sometimes be stationy but can be tough to play against

OTTH: I open AcKs to 15 in LJ

Hj calls v calls button blinds call

(75) flop AsJs4s

Checks to V who bets 65

( I think multi-way I should be betting here a ton. I like a 1/4 to 1/3 size to get called by worse spades and Ax. Anyone disagree?)

I check raise to 225. I think it’s a bad play overall but with the Ks and only 310 back I guess it’s not TERRIBLE. V calls after a tank (all others folded by the way)

(525) Turn Qh I jam 310

V snaps.

Thoughts

I think c/r is the worst flop option.

Typically monotone boards should be checked or bet small, esp multi-way. You happen to have a very strong hand on this particular flop but c/r is overplaying it. You have the best draw so there is nothing to protect against. You let naked Qs/Js get away. You allow them to call only with their made flushes, sets and two-pair.

You should bet small for value on this flop and obviously can stand to continue against a raise.

Once your flop raise is called, turn action is kinda irrelevant as you are never folding and I’m not sure V’s calling vs betting range is much different at this point.

[QUOTE=fatmanonguitar;58009691]I think c/r is the worst flop option.

I agree with that comment.

Since we are ONLY getting called by better/ getting worse to fold it makes it really bad.

I think I really butchered the hand.. results aside

Interesting what V has here..

Flop x/r is awful. He is repping a strong ace at the very least with that potish bet, your huge raise reps a flush. The hand is too strong to turn into a bluff and I think he has lots of flushes with this bet, which never folds, so it's not a very good idea to x/r bluff here anyway. You also might fold a weaker ace out that bet big for some reason and has like 10% equity.

Turn is really ugly again, I don't really want to jam as it's never getting called by worse, x/c and x/f are both pretty bad but at least checking doesn't make him fold random Ax that got here somehow, or he might check down 2p if you let him.

When he bets that much on the flop, he's saying he has AJ at the minimum (probably weighted much more towards flushes). We hold the K in our hand, which makes it way less likely he's bluffing. The flop is not a great spot when he bets this much, we are hoping that he has AQ or KxQ.

As played on the turn, I see no reason to bet. There aren't many hands worse than yours that call your flop raise (AQo just got there), and better hands aren't folding. Save your $310 and check/fold.

You said "can't turn over a winner"... so seems like maybe you're overplaying the hand because you're tilting a bit. I would just bet smallish here on the flop and play poker.

Yeah I think this hand is really bad to post because I know how to play it when I’m not internally tilting by head off….

I think in game I’m just thinking **** this I’m never folding to anything if he shoves who cares.

The result of the hand is I lose to something pretty disgusting…

Definitely betting this flop and calling a raise.

Perhaps this is the key takeaway here then... more work on mental game is needed right now vs theoretical study. No judgements, just throwing it out there...

Entitlement tilt is the single biggest killer of solid players in soft games.

I can absolutely relate to what happened otf. You flopped strong and your brain shut off. I would place a large wager saying you never intended to c/r when you checked, but when it got back to you I think the feeling of "I'm a strong player and I flopped a strong hand. I should win." took over. It has definitely happened to me.

Flop is a clear bet small/call or ck/call. I read your threads. You're better than this.

Thanks for the encouragement and wise words.

Definitely didn’t expect to lose this hand.

I definitely do have entitlement tilt/ am a huge baby when losing (really wish I wasn’t really drags the table down)

V had black QQ

Really sucked at the time to lose to THAT hand. Amazing scenario given how poorly we played the hand on the flop.

Tough to lose this one…

There was a brilliant poster named DgiHarris who used to call this "awesome possum" mode.