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2/5 - Turned Straight v Rivered Full House 2/5 - Turned Straight v Rivered Full House

03-11-2015 , 10:14 PM
Generally tight aggressive table on a Wednesday night. Most are regular grinders.

Hero - $450 - A3o

Villain $350 - ???

Preflop - Hero on BB and Villain in EP - Villain raised 2xBB and got another 3 callers including hero on BB.

Flop - 9d 2c 5h - Action = Villain bets $25 and got 2 callers including Hero.

Turn - 4s 9d 2c 5h -

Turn Action = Hero checks his nut straight and Villain bets $55 and gets 1 caller from V2. Hero raises to $120. Villain goes all in. V2 folds and Hero snap call.

River - 4c 4s 9d 2c 5h

As you can probably guess, Villain rivers a full house with his pocket 2s.

What I want to know is whether I should have simply called the turn to evaluate the river, or the raise at the turn to induce a shove from 1 of the villains who probably had a set or 2 pair was good play?

Was there anything I had done wrongly? or it was simply a case of variance going against me?
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03-11-2015 , 10:22 PM
If you won it would have been variance. The Villain had more equity on the turn than you did on the flop.

Flop pre, fold flop. After that you got your money in ahead.
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03-11-2015 , 10:37 PM
Semantics: A3 is the second nut straight on 245. Doesn't matter much as 63 isn't a big part of people's ranges, but you should always be aware if you're drawing to the nuts. So on this flop, 64 and 63 are better gutters than A3 or A4.

Pre is fine for some people who play well postflop. No offense, but based on the questions you're asking, you don't fit that description. Flop peel might be OK 100 BB or deeper as you should have pretty good implied odds, but at this depth it's also a fold.

Once you get there you should raise the turn more.
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03-11-2015 , 10:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Manifest87

Turn Action = Hero checks his Non Nut Straight and Villain bets $55 and gets 1 caller from V2. Hero raises to $120. Villain goes all in. V2 folds and Hero snap call.

Was there anything I had done wrongly?
Everything up to the point you called V's all in with the 2-Nut Straight, the only Nut straight we can make with a Ace in hand is Broadway.

Fold Pre.

Fold Flop.

As played - Get it all in with the @nd nuts on the Turn.


Variance sucks, re-load.
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03-12-2015 , 12:19 AM
FLOP: Fold unless you were the last caller and stacks are deep.

TURN: Easy shove with all the action before hand. You got your money in good and just got drawn out on.

Wouldn't have happened if you folded pre. Your goal is to simplify the decision making process, and playing OOP without the lead with A3o means were in too many difficult spots later in the hand, like when an A hits the flop and you have kicker problems.

WAIT FOR A BETTER SPOT
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03-12-2015 , 02:26 AM
Don't inflate pot in limped pots unless you have absolute nuts. 2BB raise in live game is like a limped pot. Whole 52 cards are in villains range. If i can get back all the money i have lost in limped pots, i will be a millionaire.
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