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07-31-2011 , 02:36 PM

Superman1

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2/5 no limit

300 effective

villain- just sat down, first hand played

7 handed

hero dealt A

in SB

Villain opens in mp for $20. Folds to hero who calls. BB folds.

(45) A

Hero checks, villain bets 25, hero calls

(95) J

Hero bets 45, villian exhales loudy and mutters "****" then raises 65. He then explains how this is his first time playing 2/5 and has been playing 1/2 all night.

Hero?

Last edited by Superman1; 07-31-2011 at 02:43 PM.

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07-31-2011 , 02:39 PM

Pug Walker

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ez call?

Last edited by Pug Walker; 07-31-2011 at 02:47 PM.

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07-31-2011 , 02:43 PM

dangomango

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I'd fold AJ preflop since it's RIO hand and you're out of position
I'd open AJ preflop if no one raises but it's a marginal hand

fold>3b>call preflop

as for turn, just get it in, your effective stack is only 300$
that's 60BB
easy getting it in 60BB with top two

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07-31-2011 , 02:44 PM

Superman1

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sorry hit the wrong key and that was posted before i finished the post.

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07-31-2011 , 02:58 PM

Superman1

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Originally Posted by Pug Walker

ez call?

ok then what? lead river or check? why?

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07-31-2011 , 03:51 PM

Calad

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I'd probably lead out with a bigger bet with top2 there (especially with 60bb stacks), makes it easier to get all the money in where villain could be stacking off with AK or a smaller 2pair, 66 99 and 78 seem to be in villains range as well.

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07-31-2011 , 04:03 PM

poke4fun

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3-bet to $190 and get it all-in on the river.

Is this another one of the result-oriented post?

You ran into a cooler and is now trying to figure out how you could have gotten away from the action in previous streets?

I wouldn't call with AJo OOP especially when live players are not very likely to raise with weaker Ax.

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07-31-2011 , 04:10 PM

Schadenfred

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AJo in worst position possible to newbie open? Not a chance I see the flop. Let it go like 27o.

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07-31-2011 , 04:14 PM

ibelieveyouoweme$80k

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Originally Posted by poke4fun

3-bet to $190 and get it all-in on the river.

Is this another one of the result-oriented post?

You ran into a cooler and is now trying to figure out how you could have gotten away from the action in previous streets?

I wouldn't call with AJo OOP especially when live players are not very likely to raise with weaker Ax.

bull. i see this all the time. there are only 4 aces in the deck, people will open with any ace. ANY ACE. i've seen A5, A4, A3, A2 show up. people open with KQ, J7, all kinds of a range. i'm not advocating folding or calling here, just pointing out your horribly flawed assessment of live poker players.

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07-31-2011 , 04:16 PM

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You're often losing value when flopping an ace or value own yourself to bigger Ax, and rest of the time you're folding because you'll miss the flop completely.

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07-31-2011 , 04:18 PM

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poke4fun

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Originally Posted by ibelieveinkolb

Maybe in your pool of 1/2 game, but in my pool of 2/5 and 3/5, raise of less than AJ is not often enough to warrant calls from SB with AJo.

Obviously it's player dependent. Against a player taking shot at higher limit, he's not going to go out of line with less than AJ.

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07-31-2011 , 04:31 PM

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ibelieveyouoweme$80k

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Originally Posted by poke4fun

i've played $2/$5. they were raising with any A.

very small sample size, but it happened.

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07-31-2011 , 05:09 PM

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Ok...1380 posts and that's the best argument you can come up with?

I have seen raises of less than A10 at least once, so it must happen very often.

And you're calling my observation flawed, lol.

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07-31-2011 , 05:16 PM

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Skleice

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3bet jam turn with this stack or c/jam turn is option as well.

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07-31-2011 , 05:40 PM

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ibelieveyouoweme$80k

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Originally Posted by poke4fun

Ok...1380 posts and that's the best argument you can come up with?

I have seen raises of less than A10 at least once, so it must happen very often.

And you're calling my observation flawed, lol.

i was pointing out that it happened - repeatedly - at the $2/$5 game i played in for six hours.

i also said, it happens ALL THE TIME in the $1/$2 games i'm playing.

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07-31-2011 , 05:59 PM

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Superman1

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Originally Posted by poke4fun

yes it is, i knew i was supposed to throw it away pre and called anyway for some dumb reason. I ended up shoving and got snapped drawing dead against AA.

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