Seen a couple orbits, most players are fairly loose.

stack ~ 500.
villains cover

9 handed

UTG+1 raises to 30
MP call
Hero with black pocket 8's calls
Button calls
Flop (127) 8-5-4 (diamonds)
Check, MP bets 75

What's best for hero?
If I raise anything, I'm calling a 3-bet shove since I'm filling up 33% of the time by the river.
Can I just shove here?

Interested

I'm interested as to what the others say. I feel like just calling here is fine. Raising I feel like folds out a lot of hands that we can get value from.

We need reads on the other players.

As a default, I'm probably raising here to around 180, planning to shove all non-diamond turns and calling it off if he 3 bet shoves. You will end up folding out a lot of his top pair hands with this line, and a fair percentage of the time when he 3-bet shoves you're going to be a 2-1 dog, but with top set he is definitely three bet shoving all worse sets, his 2 pairs, his top pair plus diamond hands and slow played JJ-AA with one or no diamonds.

Obviously everything changes with reads. If villain won't three bet shove or call a raise with worse than a medium flush then I'm flatting hoping to fill up and keep his range wide. If I think villain will give me credit for making a move with the lone ace of diamonds I'm trying to pump money into the pot.

The problem with this question is that you'd really like to have reads in this spot, as it drastically affects how you play the hand. But as a default I think raise/call or raise/shove turn is fine.

Given no reads here, I'm fine with just calling to see how the hand develops. Any non diamond on turn and I'm raise/shoving turn. Think this extracts most value from the hand and by raising the flop...have a feeling you're only getting called by better and taking out players you could be getting some value from on weaker hands.

I was going to say calling is dumb, but we block a lot of tp combos and overpairs aren't likely to be in anyone's range. Turn should probably be a fold if we don't improve, but I would have a hard time folding if it isn't a diamond

I was fairly new to the table so not much is available read wise for this kind of situation. Calling does seem best to me now with exactly what TensRUs said.

In the actual hand, I raised to 225, he shoves, I call.

He showed 7 3 (diamonds) and I bricked the turn and river.

Live and learn

Raise to $200 and shove the turn

You get value from TT/JJ, diamond draws

He's not betting $75 without a hand he really likes. A lot of his range should be overpairs since I'd expect him to check his flush draws. I think if you go biggger, he probably folds those.

I am raising to 225, I WANT him to commit himself, then try to draw to the flush, or lose with his over pair or lower set. We're like 65% against an ace high flush draw and the odds of flopping a made flush is like one in two billion.