2/5

stacks
hero 1200
V1 800-850
V2 1000

reads
hero- has been playing pretty tight for the night, is known to get get aggressive and not afraid of getting money in.
V1- is a reg in for 2k tonight is not afraid to gamble will call wide preflop and chase for draws. we play each other week in week out so have a decent reads on each other. Lost a big pot a few hours ago where he flopped the 2nd nut straight vs the nut straight still steaming about it.
V2-fish but not really active in hand
the Hand

UTG blind raises to 15 (the casino does not allow straddles but can blind raise)
8 callers
hero with 76 in BB
hero ????? calls
I thought about squeezing here but I thought that 67 is just a little too weak here, I also think that folding here is a little too nitty given the pot size and what it cost to call


pot 135

Flop 378

hero checks
V1- bets out 35
LP calls
button goes all in for 40
Hero ????? raises to 165
I elect to raises here as I think I have decent equity with my combo draw against V1, I felt that the other 2 callers didn't have much and where just sticking around too try and get lucky

V1 calls
LP calls

pot 500

Turn Q

hero ????
I know that we are going to play for stacks by now I know that he could have anything from straight draw to 2 pair am pretty sure that he is not going to fold to any bet that I make.
LP didn't seem interested in the hand at this point was pretty sure he folding to any bet

hero bets 400
V1 shoves for 630
LP folds
hero calls

I felt that I played this hand OK but maybe I was a bit aggressive with a marginal draw and that given the villains tendency that this style of play is high variance.
Is it just better to be check/calling with these type of hands given that we are OOP and semi-deep??
I have had a few of these hands of late (big combo draws) and really struggle what to do sometimes I think I play too aggressive other times too passive

any advice would be great

pf call is fine with all those callers

flop I would just call the all in. We only have a medium draw.

turn we don't have to play for stacks with one card to come. I would check and evaluate the bet and our odds to hit the flush

Call pre is fine.

Flop I like the c/r plan, but once it is raised in front of us and then AIRR, we need to either flat or raise bigger.

Turn, is pure spew. If your read is that "pretty sure that he is not going to fold to any bet that I make," why bet? Are we betting our second pair for value?

Getting very aggro OTF with combo draws/pair+draw hands is fine, imo, but doing so OTT is spew, ime.

Pre:

You actually have the perfect hand to squeeze (that isn't a premium)

getting no-callers or one caller is better than,

1. playing OOP
2. getting into a rio spot (flush over flush)

Squeeze will be immediately profitable assuming it works more than >50% of the time. The main factor to consider is how likely will you get called if you raise to 120-130?.

Post-flop

I like the raise to 165, OTF

I like check/calling or c/f depending on the sizing on the turn

This is good here. Stacks are pretty deep, and you can get in for a cheap price. Not sure how squeezing when 8 people have trailed in is gonna work here.


Compounding errors. You caught just enough to get you into big trouble. Second button and a very sub-nut FD isn't something you want to play, especially when you have another player willing to go all-in. I don't see how you're good here. You took your chance, and it didn't work out. Fold now.

If you're gonna play hands like (7,6) you have to be able to get away from them when you don't bink strongly on the flop. This flop is basically a whiff, and the one and only way I'd still be in there is if it was checked through and I got a free turn.

From bad to much worse. If you knew they weren't folding, then what purpose does betting serve? You missed again, and, this time, a card rolled off that's highly likely to beat your pair of sevens, if they weren't beat already.

You completely forgot the First Rule of Holes: when you find yourself in one, the first thing you do is stop digging.

Kyubimon are you leveling? Whiffed the flop? What flop was he looking for?

On the turn I agree it's a check/evaluate.

Yeah the problem with the squeeze is that if one calls 6 people will call is just that kinda table was one of the reasons of me not doing it.
What kinda hands are good to squeeze with?

No

Not sure what it means to readers when none of those reads are provided.

Three words: reverse implied odds.

Hand feels it's being played blind folded and a hand tied behind the back.

We have decent equity against what? You feel they didn't have much because of what?

Is nut flush draw much?

Is bigger flush draw much?

Is straight draw much?

What about overpair?

What about TPTK?

So you know this guy very well, and you thought you had decent equity against him on the flop, but all of sudden when a meaningless Q shows up, you went from decent equity to "he could have anything"?

What tendency?

Again three words: reverse implied odds.

Asking the wrong question.

Right question is what kind of scenarios?

76s would be decent to squeeze because it can flop very favorable draws against fewer opponents.

I agree with Richard. With UTG raise to 15, 8 callers, and yourself as a caller, thats $150 in the pot pre making the SPR for the shortest effective stack probably fairly low. you're losing all of your maneuverability with the hand. Overpairs, sets, better flush draws will be firing $110-130 in on flop putting you in awkward spots where if you hit your flush you can't even be sure you're good. Better option here imo is too squeeze pre, try and take it down with a disguised hand where that flop seems much more favorable heads-up

If the cards are marked, so you can see the flop before it's dealt, this is a great spot to squeeze. But after you squeeze and you're out-of-position on an AT3 rainbow board could you please list the advantages of your hand being disguised?

Assuming the Villains have random hands we're losing this pot 69% of the time. We didn't whiff the flop but we have zero outs to the nuts and it's extremely unlikely that we'll ever have a hand strong enough to value bet.

Even if we changed the flop so that the 7s is a heart, so we flopped a flush, we're still losing the pot more than 50% of the time.

Do you know the purpose of a squeeze play?

Above makes no sense.

If we have 40% equity to the pot, so what if we only have 31% equity?

And so what if we have zero outs to the nuts?

Value is relative, and just because you are only betting with top of your range does not mean there isn't room to value bet.

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lol