2/5; eff. stack 1000; V is kind of loose and pretty passive; hero has tight aggressive image

V limps in EP, hero in CO raises to 25 w/ A4hh, only V calls.

Flop (50): A75r
V checks, hero checks back. Dry flop, wary of better aces, can get value from weaker hands on later streets when my range looks weak.

Turn (50): 4dd
V checks, hero bets 30, V raises to 80.
Hero calls.

River (210): 2o
V bets 200.

I think pretty easy fold, yes? Maybe even the turn is a fold.

Preflop standard.

Flop: okay. I'd mix in a few bets here too. I'm going to assume that the flop Ace isn't a diamond here, because I think it matters. (If the flop Ace is a diamond I think we can fold turn.)

Turn: Well it's possible H has run into a set, given the preflop EP limp from V. Baluga Theorem says probably fold our A-broadway combos, since our hand is pretty transparent here.

The problem is that we have two pair and passive V can have all kinds of draws in addition to his sets. V has 66/65s for semi-bluff and loads of diamond FDs and possibly NFDs (if flop Ace isn't a diamond). H is in position so V cannot float a bunch of junk here, so I give him credit for a hand.

I suppose I'd rather re-raise/fold turn than call the inevitable river polar bet.

AP River: we get 2-1 and river was brick. I think we have to cry/call at that price. V will show us 86s, sets and A5s probably. But he has plenty of busted one-pair combo draws and FDs too.

What were the suits OTF? Might he have picked up a flush draw OTT? Is that why there are two d's there? What suit was the ace?

I'd probably c-bet the flop IP. We don't mind folding better aces and some draws here. We don't want to bluff-catch if V is betting better aces or 2P+ on later streets.

If we c-bet and get called, we can check back a lot of turns and evaluate river.

His line doesn't make a lot of sense here, and seems fishy AF, unless he's observant and believes you'll bet ATC when he checks twice, and he's just planning to check raise as a bluff.

What's he repping on the turn? 86? 63? A set or 2P? Why would he want to go for a check raise when we already checked back on the ace-high flop? What are we supposed to bet here, other than hands that will insta-fold to a check raise? Doubtful he's putting us on strong top pairs or 2P+ when we check back flop.

I think I might 3B the turn, though flat calling to see what he does on the river is fine.

I don't really love calling or folding here. If we're sure we're beat, and also sure he'd never fold to a raise, fine, we can fold. I might raise for value if we think he does have some random ace with a decent kicker, perhaps with a busted draw. Otherwise, our hand seems too strong to fold.

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I'd play it pretty much the same until the river.

On the river, I am not too happy, but I still call.

Im betting flop for value vs a loose passive villain that will call with any piece of the board.

Now on the turn we need to know based on previous play is he passive enough that he wont raise draws or worse 2pair on turn?

If we know he never raises worse 2pair then river is an easy fold. If we know he can or we just have no idea then we have to call bc he can be value betting worse or bluffing.

Ugh. I thnk against a loose passive, I bet flop, and get value from nonsense like 67o.

As played, Turn bet and call are good.

River, I very much doubt he's bluffing. So is he overvaluing an Ace, or weaker 2P?

In general I think this line is hecka strong, and make a sigh fold, expecting to see something like 55.

Looking at this again...I dunno, our hand seems really under-repped when we raise pre, check flop, and just bet-call turn.

We bet the 4 on the turn. Is he putting us on 4x? Is he check-raising the turn with A3 that gets there on the river, or limp-calling pre in EP with 86, or 63, and then taking a chance he's blowing us off of all our top pairs and all our bluffs when he x/r's turn, when he could have just donk-led and gotten us to call? Really? I'm not sure I buy it.

The river 2 looks like a brick to me. There's only one combo of 44 he can have, and I don't buy that he's checking to us on the turn with a big hand when we checked back on the flop, and then check-raising when we could have a $hlt-ton of bluffs and weak value hands that are just going to insta-fold.

What's with his bet sizing? He x/r's $80 when we bet $30 into $50. So, he's basically potting it, laying us 3.2 to 1 on a call? Then he bets almost full pot on the river? What's he polarizing to? a straight or air? Who plays a straight this way? Any reads or history on this guy?

Our hand is very under-repped, and this guy's line is fishy AF. I doubt he has a strong enough hand to call a raise, but our hand definitely seems too strong to fold, and I am very curious what this guy has that plays this way.

Maybe I'm biased by results -- I called for the reasons many suggested, but in the end I felt like I was looking for a reason to call when I don't think he's bluffing and we don't beat enough of his value hands.

So I called, he won with A7o, no diamonds

I think I would call too. If he is going to have A7o, can't he have 75s, 54s, maybe 74s? Or just somehow have ATo, or occasional bluffs?

Villain is going to put you on a big ace a lot of the timeand assume 2 pair is the nuts.

Or somehow leveled himself into thinking you don't have an ace after checking the flop and may think AJ or AT is the nuts.

So for all the sillyness I see I think I would call.

i think theyre much more polarized than like bottom 2 when they do this but i dont see how u can really fold. would never ever ever check turn vs random limp caller at 2/5 but solver x your hand > 50% of the time. i do think you could / should size up turn though, esp if you dont anticipate facing aggression vs smaller size

If this guy is limp-calling EP with A7o, flopping top 2, and playing it this way, you need to get into as many hands with him as possible.

What? I'm snap calling.

Just saw result. I had a hand like this the other day but was on the winning side:

V limp calls OOP, I have A 9

Flop - A-8-3 one diamond, check check

Turn - 7 diamond, check I bet he calls

River - 2 diamond, my backdoor flush comes in, he leads pot, I raise with the nut flush, he calls and shows A8o and complains.