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2/5 spread hands... thoughts? 2/5 spread hands... thoughts?

08-26-2019 , 03:07 PM
So been playing in a 2/5 spread limit game with the spread being 100. This works differently from most spread games in the sense that the max that can go in on any street is 100. So if someone were to bet 90 you can only raise 10 on top to 100. That said there are a lot of really bad players, I've also seen a couple of first-time players here, never seen anything like it so even though I have don't have a solid spread limit strat I still think its a very +ev game.

I've made some adjustments to my preflop ranges like playing small pp's and sc's less and giving more value to weaker broadway hands like qjo. Postflop I'm more passive with my draws and value tpgk hands like the nuts in most spots. Also, have been making a ton of crying calls and rarely folding to riv bets when pots are inflated. Got 3 hands here I played the other day which I'm unsure about.

h1

8 players on table, complete amateur (didn't know what posting was and you could just tell it was his first or second time at casino) limps in utg, I'm UTG+2 with 89s, usually I would just fold here but since I had a really tight image at the time and wanted to play a pot ip vs this player I iso to 20, 3 players call behind and limper calls. Flop is Q89tt I have bottom 2 and no bdfd, I cap it, rest folds turn is a 7 bringing in the possible flush, V leads for cap I call, river is a 4 tone J, V caps.

This spot is extremely gross cause any club or any T beats us but we are getting 6-1 and I'm left wondering wether V is bad enough to make some really weird play here with AA, KJ, Tx, Qx, 9x type hands to give us 14%~ equity? I think maybe the because the river is a J it sort of makes us have to fold but any non 4 flush riv is a call.

JFTR villain showed up with a better hand that wasn't a T or a flush which sort of reinforced my theory that he would do this with those previously mentioned hands as well. Though I think this should have been a fold regardless?

H2

Similar spot at another table (9 players), I have tight image, weak passive player limps in UTG2 I iso UTG3 with K9s (my standard line is usually to just fold here but thought I could make it +ev in this instance). Get 4 callers including the limper. Flop is T95r it checks around to me (I'm 2nd last to act) and I make the stupid mistake of checking here to prtotect my checking range, which is a habit I'm trying to shake in these live low stakes games. Turn is a 6 bringing in a fd. Checks around to me, I bet 80, ip (not so bad but weak) player calls and passive weak player calls oop. River is an off-suit 8 it checks to ip player who caps 100, other player folds and its on me. Here we're getting about 4.5-1. In order to make this call we need 2 assumption to be correct 1. Villain is bad enough to be calling my ep raise from LJ with hands like a5s, a6s, J9s, Q9s (as well as possibly some off-suit combos of those ax hands as well) and 2. He's decent enough to realise these hands have 0 SDV on river and turn his hand into a bluff. I know those 2 assumptions might sound like they contradict eachother but I really think it takes less intuition to realise #2 than it takes to realise #1 is a bad play. So should we be calling here or just muck it?

H3

2/5/10 (straddle) I am LJ with QJo, weak passive player limps in UTG2, I would usually fold here in a NL game but I think hands like this hold a lot more value in this SL game so I min-iso to 20. The straddle calls and limper calls, and flop is TJ5r I bet 2/3rds straddle folds, limper calls and turn is a off-suit 8. Once again my midstakes online mindset tells me "check back here to protect range and cap river" but in a game like this vs a player like this should we just cap/cap most runouts hoping for super thin value and denying equity? Also how would we react to a river cap lead after we cap turn on say a 6, K or T?

Apologise for the sloppy nature for these HH, wrote this in a rush
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08-26-2019 , 05:07 PM
As you can see, iso is not really a thing at LLSNL games, and even less at SL.

You'll get much better discussion posting one hand per thread.

H1, fold turn. No really. When passive players c/c a wet board and lead when the draw comes in, they have it almost always.

H2's check is good, but it's not to protect your range, it's to keep from turning your moderate SDV into a bluff 5-way.

H3 depends too much on your game's dynamics with the SL. If you will get more calls because you can only bet so small OTR, go ahead. In NL, I'd often check to deleverage and get more calls OTR.
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08-27-2019 , 01:14 PM
Get used to max-betting the turn as it it's the only real chance to protect your hand. And yes post 1 hand at a time using the HH tools.
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08-27-2019 , 01:40 PM
No disrespect but all three of those hands could be folded pre imo.

Maybe you limp with them and avoid playing bloated pots.

Also if you are attempting to 'Iso' I would make it more than 20. Each time you attempted this it did not work (in your hand history), maybe open to 35-40 pre. But again you most likely will only be called with hands that have you dominated pre.
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