The reason I shoved bc I felt that my opp either hand A2s or AQ,AK. There are 16 AK hands and 16 AQ hand. There is only one A2s hand left and thats the Ah2h so I feel that in the long run this shove if a profitable one against this type of villain. I also thought that there was maybe a 10% chance villain would fold AJ here. Probably not since he called me with AQ but whatever.

i mean its a good shove if you feel he will call a lot with AQ/AK.

Not sure why you're posting on here if you know the right answer. Your posts are usually solid.

Dude, you can't get pissed at people for their advice when you give no information about your villain in the OP.

Because you knew he would never raise with a FD or would limp in position PF with AK, AQ is important information.

Congrats on your huge balls.

Flop 3 bet has to be pondered a bit.
Since A2s, even 72s, all the combo 2cXc and other FD are in villains range, I would 3 bet but much larger. This is way too good a price to give villain.
I 3bet to at least $155.

As played I would bet turn $145 and most likely bet/fold unless I got a gut feeling read by visuals at the table.

After pondering over this a bit after my first thoughts earlier...
At river, since we know nothing of villain bluff tendencies, I would most likely check, doing my best act that I had clubs and missed. (FD should be a fairly large part of villain range since his line does not look like A8o etc.)

I would be worried a bit by the deuce, but not enough to check fold. I would check to induce a bluff.

If I were villain and you checked though, I would be overbet shoving the river as a bluff. But in reality there almost is not a 2-5 player alive who is capable of this. Valuebet size bluff here on river for villain is no good. It is what we want. But a shove? Hmmmm. That is high level. What “would” you do to an unknowns shove here if you check?

wat????

This guy limps button with any of these hands? Ever?

OK, so Florida poker is like out of sight I guess, but wow, it is going to be a very difficult transformation for players (used to these type of games/tendencies) to rise in limits without almost a complete re-work of game strategy. Hey, when playing with ranked idiots, it is hard to post on here and have valid discussion since the villains do not even rank on a scale imaginable. Sort of like hey guys, I was playing NL with my 2 year old last nite and this hand came up. What do you think I should do on the turn here after my kid moved 4 nickels into the pot? When the villain is ranked noob, there really can be no serious discussion.

Vs an ordinary villain, in an ordinary Vegas, AC, or CA cardroom, this shove is -EV. The fact that hero got lucky and found a 2 year old to say call with worse is irrelevant.

With no more to go on, I basically hate the play.

All of this. You literally beat nothing at the end in a quality opponent's river-shove-calling range.

Against a Villain who is overlimping button with AT+, never semi-bluffing the flop, and stacking off almost 200bb with AT, AQ or AK in this spot than shove is perect. Well played.

I like the river shove, WP. He must have had a worse 2pr? The river tank shove OOP is seen as weakness by a lot of bad players. "ZOMG he had to work up the courage to get that bluff in ther. lulz?!"

EDIT: wow just read he had AQ. Yikes, how the **** does he limp the button with that.

Hes bad guys. This is live poker alot of you standard donks that play 1/2 2/5 dont raise with A10 AJ AQ AK they want to see a flop before they put money in the pot. I know alot of people dont shove here and I dont recommend it unless you have a soul read on villain. I felt like I pretty much had him read to those 3 hands by the turn. I dont like to check the river bc Villain would never ever ever bluff on the river or never ever ever value bet AK on that board. This IMO based on Villain was the best way to play the hand. Thanks for your input guys and for those who dont value bet thin in live games, I wish you all the luck in the world for beating the rake and the tips my friends. I love shoving rivers.

i like the shove way more then c/c.

I think you're probably misunderstanding...

With your reads on Villain that 1) he's never semi bluffing flop with clubs or 2xcc), 2) probably not playing A2, 3) overlimping AT+, and 4) stacking off with AT+ on the river, then I'm pretty sure we all LOVE that shove.

There's just a contingent that wants to point out that the shove is only good with your specific reads and against a really bad opponent... which is to say, it was great in this spot, but you need to understand why it would be a terrible play if Villain was even remotrely competent (something you'll want to learn if you intend to move up stakes before you figure it out at a massive hit to your roll).

+1

Based on the subsequent description of reads by the OP, I really don't know why this hand was posted.

Personally, I think it's a brag with hindsight reads but w/e.