I just moved into 2/5 game after playing some 1/2. It's a $100-$500 game and I bought in for $300. I pick up AhKc with my cutoff post. Young kid limps, old business type guy limps and I make it $25. They both call and blinds fold.

Flop $80 As 9d 7s

Both guys easily cover me and check. I bet $60. Kid folds and Businessman calls.

Turn $200 As 9d 7s Qs

He checks. I think about betting but check it back.

River $200 As 9d 7s Qs 4d

He bets $120 pretty quickly.

Hero?!? Comments on all streets and sizing appreciated.

Snap call OTR, he can easily have any Ax here given how wide preflop ranges are in live games and Ax is consistent with this medium betsize.

Why did you buy in for $300? Where is this game?

I'd prob make it $30 pre, but w/e.

River is kind of gross but a call anyways, I'd need a soul-read to fold my hand here. There are very few limp/call spades here.

KTss
KJss
JTss (might raise flop)
J9ss (might raise flop
T9ss (might raise flop)
T8ss (might raise flop)
98ss (might raise flop)
97ss (might raise flop)
86ss (might raise flop)
65ss (might raise flop)
54ss

But you might see people playing AJ/AT this way as well, hoping to get called by JJ/KK.

You're calling 120 to win 320, so you need 27.27% equity to breakeven

Board: As 9d 7s Qs 4d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 37.500% 37.50% 00.00% 6 0.00 { AdKc }
Hand 1: 62.500% 62.50% 00.00% 10 0.00 { KsJs, KsTs, JsTs, Js9s, Ts9s, Ts8s, 9s8s, 9s7s, 8s6s, 6s5s, 5s4s, AJo }

So even with all those flushes and the bunch of combos of AJo he can have, you're still have 37.5% equity (making a +10% EV call)

Even if I added in all the A4o/A4s..:

Board: As 9d 7s Qs 4d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 27.273% 27.27% 00.00% 6 0.00 { AdKc }
Hand 1: 72.727% 72.73% 00.00% 16 0.00 { A4s, KsJs, KsTs, JsTs, Js9s, Ts9s, Ts8s, 9s8s, 9s7s, 8s6s, 6s5s, 5s4s, AJo, A4o }

You still have the equity needed to break-even.

Tough spot..

Given you're buying in for 60BB in a 2/5 game you're probably looking to play a tight shorstacked game so getting a hand like AK i also agree you should bet bigger to about $30 to get easier decisions postflop

besides that i think im just going to go with above post for river call calculations. definitely very marginal and i can see villain showing up with a flush very often too... think him betting Ax for value on river is kinda thin imo

Starting with 60bb, you should be looking to get all in by the river when you hit tptk.

30-35 pre and b/b/shove.

Not too sure the turn card would change my commitment plans if I were readless, but if I check turn I'm snapping river.

Can you buy in for 40bb? You could auto shove this flop.

just shove turn it is a negative freeroll if you check it back to him

I find this hand to be tricky actually.

I think it is going to be tough to get a call from AJ or A10 here on the turn if you shove.

You also are giving a negative freeroll to see river.

I think this is one of those where it isnt a huge difference how you play it.

What do you think your doing here, if a spade falls on the river, still calling here? Be a great card for villain to represent on

I bought in for 60bb as only 4/9 spots had me covered. Two were playing $100 or less and I wanted to go for dinner before I put my big boy pants on.

I called on the river and he opened Js 9x. Initially on the turn I was thinking of betting $150 and calling off last $65. Having played some PLO with the suit, I didn't think much of his game other than he had some gamble to him.

As played, had another spade dropped on the end and he fired, I would fold and if checked to, I think I'm checking back 80 percent of the time as I'm only folding out possible two pairs and sets mostly.

I think you played it fine. Only critique I have is always buy in full, you never know when you can get into a great spot against a fish with a stack.

This hand interests me a lot if you were playing deep

The Qs is literally the worst card to possibly brick off here.

This is one of those spots that could easily be argued for check turn/snap river, or bet/folding turn

Suit was he hawing about how he should have shoved turn and I would have folded.

I thought a lot of his range was weak suited aces or possibly ATo as he strikes me as the type to raise up AJ+ after a limper probably. JT was a possibility and didn't see him holding too many 9's here but he proved me wrong. Also thought if he had a flush, I would be putting my full stack in stiff on turn while checking back, I might get some value on end/induce a bluff.

He went broke when I got back from dinner. Table told me he C/R all in on turn with 44 on a A35J board.

People at 2/5 are so bluffy. I am not folding anything at 2/5.

It is just such a bad call by him on the flop, but then he got the perfect card, and to not make a move.

Villain called the flop pretty obviously w.o a plan.

I agree that you will induce a lot of bluffs here on the river, your hand in most players eyes is underrepped, but there also are a ton of bad cards. A king is even scary for you, I think a lot of j10s in range.

I am betting 60%/checking 40%. So yeah I have no issue at all with the way you played this.

NH. Ship that pot.

I like a bet on the turn. Most hands he has have decent equity against you so you don't want to give them a free card, especially since by playing your hand that way, you will be forced to pay him off on the river when he may be bluffing with a frequency that makes it tough for you to make money.

Also if you check and a spade comes off on the river, not only have you missed out on a turn bet from hands like ATo, now you may actually get bluffed off your best hand on the river.

The ranges I put in flopzilla show him having top pair about 40% of the time after he calls the flop and a flush draw about 20%. When he doesn't bet the turn, it's less likely he had a flush draw. Charge those weird single spade hands, get paid off by those weaker aces, and keep yourself from getting bluffed on the river. Bet the turn.

As played, any reasonable range has you at 35% equity or better. Call.


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If you bet turn, what is your sizing? All in for $215?

Fold.

He would check a weaker ace looking to get to showdown.

He hit a flush or two pair then did classic slow play on turn.

Probably worth mentioning in the OP. No, definitely worth mentioning.

I think the key card here is the suited turn. Most villains with legitimate hands that aren't at all drawing would lead the third spade on the turn. 77 and 99 almost never check-call this flop and then check the turn. AQ/9/7 likely leads big on the turn to safeguard against a free river spade, with A9/7 weighted toward a flop check-raise (a move that plays well on an ace, two-suited, semi-drawy board). As such, I think this turn is a must-shove for Hero in order to deny Villain a free flush card. On the river, I think this is always a call because the range that beats Hero doesn't make a lot of sense after the turn. The only value hand I see Villain having here is a low flush, which leads the turn a decent amount of the time.

I completely agree

grunch: call

i would have played it exact same. don't need to bloat the pot with one pair when a flush draw comes in. he's not overcharging on the river and you've opened him up for some bluffs or even thinking he's going to get value from a weaker ace (you c-bet and then shut down in his mind). call it off. maybe you're beat with a flush. but i think you're good enough of the time to call here. this is why playing in position is key. you'd be in a much tougher spot with likely a more bloated pot if you were out of position.

You have no other choice for a bet-size. It's slightly over a pot-sized bet. Versus the range of hands that Villain would limp-call, check-call the flop, and then check the turn on that board, I don't see how you can give him a free card when you've invested 30% of your stack.

Now, if you had no history with this player or if you expected him to play superior hands this way, then I check the turn. However, given that you have some history with him, which includes a bit of gamble, then I think you ship the turn.

"Small hand,small pot" doesn't really apply with your short stack. If you fold your're real short going forward. I'd probably bet the turn and if raised you have a better idea where u stand plus making him pay to draw if he has just 1 spade.

As played though, I'm always calling this off. I think this is usually a smaller A and if he does have the flush then he sized his bet nicely to suck you in. But from your description of him and your check ott, he probably thinks Ax may be good and could have some FE. Although the bet is too small to really capitalize on FE. Nice call.

Against this guy a turn bet was definitely in order. Although I fold out most of his aces without a spade, it's not worth a negative free roll by checking.