Preface: The dynamics of a LLSNL table are so fluid that your preflop ranges should also be fluid IMO. Every table and situation is different and it's hard to convey all of the information available at the table in a post.

Here's a simple spot I had recently, a spot that we all see often. I think a lot people in this forum will have different opinions on it.

Table is 9 handed, we are ~160bb deep, table has 3 big spots, one with 120bb in MP, one spot with 110bb in the BTN, and one with +200bb in the BB. 1 good reg in MP with 100bb, and rest are bad/slightly bad/breakeven regs with 80-120bb stacks.

Table is playing very passive, very few 3bettors pre, going multiway very often to the flop, and all 3 spots are loose passive. We have a good read and feel for the game. Typical open is $25. Basically an average/decent night 2/5 game.

Hero is UTG with 8s7s

Hero?

I normally don't like those range analysis threads but what's your preflop range here? Do you have a limping range?

Mixed. I will open if I expect anywhere from 0-2 callers. I will limp if the table rarely raises preflop and I expect 3+ callers when I open. I'll fold if I expect a raise behind me with multiple callers and a low SPR pot.

Fist pump fold.

Entirely different story with 89s tho. 3x that one and the rest of your utg range

Eddie, what do you do in this specific spot I described? Also what's your range here? What do you do with A4s, A6s, AJo, KJs, 65s, 22-77 etc.

Avaritia what's your range look like here given table desc? Also is there that much difference between 98s and 87s that one is a fold?

I open it UTG. A tight range for me UTG is 77+, ATs+, 89s+, KJs, AQo+ (108) which would mean if I'm playing tight I'm just barely not opening it. My default UTG range is 22+, Axs, 67s+, 8Ts+, BBs, KQo, AJo+ which is 232 hands, this only works if you pretty much never get 3bet and are comfortable folding your weaker top pairs/are dominating the table.

Generally folding Axs, AJ, KJs, 65s. I mix limps and opens with pairs, similar criteria for 87s. I almost never fold low pairs in EP except in small capped games. At super tight passive tables where everyone plays face up, I'll open all the hands you listed.

To many callers if we raise. Limp /calling not a fan of from utg. Fairly easy fold. No reason to balance from UTG in this game.

A10s+, AQ+, 10Js+, 88+,KQ

Let rest go. Use to limp 22-77. But I believe it is fairly big leak now

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This is a VERY loose UTG range, imo.

Ranma that's a very similar range to me at most tables like the one I described. Which hands, if any, do you limp? Do you use a different sizing for certain hands? $15 for 22-88, your low suited connectors and Axs under ATs, but $25 with the rest?

Suited connectors in particular look pretty but like pretty women usually require a lot of maintenance and the way to maximize your ev with an attractive woman is the same with how you maximize your ev with suited connectors, it's all about position.

The difference between 78 and 89 is that 89 is my cutoff. Flopzilla is a neat tool that can help you see how close hands differ from each other.

I could be completely and entirely wrong but if you can't profitably play all pairs from UTG the game probably isn't worth sitting at.

I don't think limping 22-77 UTG is a leak at most tables. Esp not the table I described.

That being said, there's some great tables where folding 22-77 might be correct because it's crazy re raise city preflop. Always exceptions.

Been debating this with friend for last 2 weeks.

And am tracking it. We will see at end of 2017. But I definitely have the math to back it up.

But as with everything poker. It depends.

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89s is your cutoff at this specific table I described or do you have a static UTG range? Also you mentioned you opened 3bb with your whole UTG range. Don't you feel that using an exploitable sizing is more profitable in most situations? I have situations very often where opening to $35 with AA is way better than $15 (and still getting 5 callers)

I don't open limp and I don't vary my open size by hand strength.