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11-08-2013 , 01:36 PM
Which is why I said to hold thoughts until seeing his turn action.
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11-08-2013 , 01:43 PM
Delete that post please results ldo. Wanted sol to respond.
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11-08-2013 , 01:44 PM
Pretty sick ISO by the OMC using his image to full effect 10/10 play.
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11-08-2013 , 01:47 PM
Out of a 100 times, omc has A9dd once... Hell even after I see his hand I will still put him on QJ

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11-08-2013 , 01:55 PM
Playertree you're wrong. By now we should all know its lots of different types of grandpa's.

Grandpa is not indepth enough.

If hero said, Villain is 80 and where's a cowboy belt and boots. Then fold asap.

But it doesn't say that.
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11-08-2013 , 02:06 PM
Haha I'm glad ILCD refers to him as grandpa. Everyone else is calling him villain.

Thanks for staying true to the thread Cali.

I don't know how much Sol can add (not an insult, I mean he's too smart and it's not like a leveling range war going on between me and Raptor)

It's just, how often do you see an elderly man min re-raise here with anything outside of a set or QJ? And btw he hasn't VPIP'd in 2.5 orbits.

Really ranging was my only question here, though I do appreciate the recommended actions as well.
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11-08-2013 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Avaritia
And btw he hasn't VPIP'd in 2.5 orbits.
He was waiting for Aces or A9

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11-08-2013 , 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxRhino
Are we capable of bluffing a club?

Gives us 13 outs
I would imagine this to be an absolutely terrible idea to even put this into our decision process of how to continue (with our particular holdings)...I can't imagine getting better than AK to fold all that often here vs said Villain and I think incorporating this into our plan when calling flop is going to make our play of future streets way less profitable... In attempting to fold out the part of his range that is non-flush but ahead of us (and likely ultimately failing a huge percentage of the time), we will most certainly fold out all hands we are ahead of and could possibly get thin value out of when checked to (either on turn or river). This of course is assuming your are going to jam when a club turns and are checked to (I can not imagine any other way to effectively represent a flush vs this villain... other than straight forwardly saying I have a huge hand here is a huge bet).

I think I am close to wanting to fold this spot.... but I think peeling and making a big decision in position on the turn is better/easier. AK is certainly the bottom of my "made hand" calling range here...
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11-09-2013 , 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Avaritia
It's just, how often do you see an elderly man min re-raise here with anything outside of a set or QJ? And btw he hasn't VPIP'd in 2.5 orbits.
As I said, the salient part is that there is a known fish in the hand. People go full ****** around super bad players. Although I don't think folding is bad. I said it was close.
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11-09-2013 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Avaritia
I try not to post results as this was a "what is your cold ranging analysis here" question, where really there is no right/wrong answer, more so just a feel of what respected posters would range an OMC with limited history on here.

That said, results are funny.



Right on the idea, wrong on the range. Nice call though.

Hero tank folds, sh*tty reg tables KQo,

OMC tables A9

Someone said something along the lines of "took some stones to raise the kid who's running hot"

He said "I needed to see if my Ace was good, I guess it was."

merge pwned I guess

So yea if I flat flop turn prolly goes check and I put him squarely on AT and get two streets from there (or he golds or w/e) Who knows though he might spazz lead turn and I fold anyway.

I think it's still probably a thin fold most of the time. Maybe not even that thin. Agree I'm never folding a set otf though, that's silly.

I do get min raised otf from OMC's with top pair, but a min re-raise in a three way pot on that flop? Top pair "seeing where it was at" didn't even enter my mind.
lol at results I do agree with the fold fwiw, It sucks but I see these types of plays all the time people overplay there hand and get you to fold the best hand.
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11-09-2013 , 11:51 AM
Its kind of sad for a great many----as seeing these results is going to cause a ton of cash to be lost in the future.
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11-11-2013 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by AintNoLimit
Its kind of sad for a great many----as seeing these results is going to cause a ton of cash to be lost in the future.
Totally agree - this is an isolated incident that rarely happens. Results do not change the fact you should be folding the flop raise based on the given info on the opponent.
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11-11-2013 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by playertee
He was waiting for Aces or A9
LMAOOOOOOO

omg i was in 'the quiet room' at the library when I read this and I burst out laughing, couldn't stop and had to leave lol
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11-11-2013 , 08:03 PM
cU of moron's stack size you cant fold. hope for a spiked A,K or c ? honestly,with your read im expecting to be behind,but you cant fold.
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