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2/5 - QQ OOP on paired board. Best play OTR? 2/5 - QQ OOP on paired board. Best play OTR?

08-05-2011 , 04:59 AM
9-handed.

MP (Hero): ~$900
MP2: ~$800
CO: ~$500

Hero opens to $25 with QQ, MP2 and CO call.

Flop ($75): T74
Hero bets $50, all call.

Turn ($225): T
Checks through.

River ($225): 9
Hero?

Hero is TAG. MP2 is mostly LAP, but solid and capable of getting aggressive and pulling off some moves. Not really sure how to peg CO. I guess he's mostly LAP as well, but he's made a few 3bets pre and also raised limpers off their hands a few times.

OTR, we can b/f, c/c or c/f.

If we b/f, how much do we bet?
If we c/c, what's the most we call?
If we check and MP2 bets and CO calls, do we call, and for how much at most?

Best plan of action?
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08-05-2011 , 05:07 AM
I think the only two possible moves you have are c/c or c/f.. I personally would c/c given the information. I think leading is a bad move on the river.. because worse hands are definitely folding to a bet and better hands are calling or raising you... Cheap showdown in this situation.

With such passive players it wouldn't surprise me that they had a T,x and didn't bet for value.
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08-05-2011 , 07:08 AM
$85/fold. A lot of draws have hit enough show-down value that they just c/behind (assuming they didn't complete a nut draw), but will likely call a small bet OTR. They are way more apt to hero call than bluff-raise anything with show-down value here. I think c/calling is okay too, but I feel way more comfortable with b/fold here.
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08-05-2011 , 07:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by canoodles
$85/fold. A lot of draws have hit enough show-down value that they just c/behind (assuming they didn't complete a nut draw), but will likely call a small bet OTR. They are way more apt to hero call than bluff-raise anything with show-down value here. I think c/calling is okay too, but I feel way more comfortable with b/fold here.
No draws have hit here apart from 8J gutshot. Bet for value small maybe 1/3 pot and pp will probably look you up. I can fold if raised. I dont mind c/c either which is the safe play.
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08-06-2011 , 06:54 AM
I think you misinterpret what I meant. When I say a lot of draws have hit enough show-down value, I mean by hitting a pair (like 98, J9, 96) which are more prone to hero call than bluff-raise. Also, 86 got there on the river which was a double gutter OTF.
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