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2/5 QQ being squeezed on flop multiway 2/5 QQ being squeezed on flop multiway

12-15-2011 , 11:51 AM
K it's a 2/5 blinds with 300 max buy in game in snoqualmie casino. I'm sitting UTG with 300. Villian one in utg +1 has me covered and is an older gentleman i doubled up a few hands ago with QQ vs kk no real reads on him yet other then i get the feeling he's one of these nitty retirees wittling his days away on the table filling up seats. He did slow play the KK and smooth pre from mid position then got it in on a low flop. He also stacked someone else a few hands ago by limping his way into a boat and not putting any pressure on till the turn and river so doin a lot of standard slow playing. Villian 2 has 300 and just sat down but looks like a standard hipster reg tag. Villian 3 is the small blind with about 180 roughly. I've been on table only a few hands but been involved in a lot of pots and rebought 2 times already.

i open QQ utg to 20. Villians 1,2, a random, and small blind all call.

pot 100 flop 982

small blind tanks like he wants to lead this then checks. I bet 65. Villian one quickly calls, villian two quickly calls, then villian 3 insta jams in for 160. Action to hero?
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12-15-2011 , 01:26 PM
I think AI is the only option here. You have 60 bb pre and there are a plethora of draws out there. The shover can have a wide range, some of which you beat. Afterall he has rebought x amount of times already

Wow this BI stucture sucks! Cant even buy in for 100bb
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12-15-2011 , 01:41 PM
Here's a few thoughts thoughts:

1) It would be nice to see what range you're assigning to everyone. It is good to know. While it may not be too critical to what you do here (see #2 re: small stack = limited options) it is a good habit to have - both at the table and when posting hand histories here.

2) With your stack size and the draw heavy board, I think you have to push here.

3) Paragraphs are your friend. Please feel free to use the tab and/or enter keys on your keyboard when posting
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12-15-2011 , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Pay4Myschool
I think AI is the only option here. You have 60 bb pre and there are a plethora of draws out there. The shover can have a wide range, some of which you beat. Afterall he has rebought x amount of times already

Wow this BI stucture sucks! Cant even buy in for 100bb
this
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12-15-2011 , 08:09 PM
shove
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12-15-2011 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Pay4Myschool
I think AI is the only option here. You have 60 bb pre and there are a plethora of draws out there. The shover can have a wide range, some of which you beat. Afterall he has rebought x amount of times already

Wow this BI stucture sucks! Cant even buy in for 100bb
OP/Hero is the one who needs to get his buyins back.

Someone is all-in so this hand is obviously going to showdown. Just call now and shove any turn. You have a chance to go from down 600 to up over 600 in one hand.
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12-16-2011 , 03:11 PM
so you guys don't think the two cold callers behind me are anything to worry about?

as for hand ranges...villian 1 has been flat calling and slow playing a lot of big hands for the short amount of time i've been there. it's hard to really give a range since i've only been on the table for a small amount of time.

obv we are looking at a draw heavy board and i'm prob discounting two pair type of hands as they would raise so that limits my thoughts to sets/draw/ over pair and with preflop action sets seem to be the most likely since it seems like a standard set mining scenario in a live game.

the shover makes me think mostly a 10. i'm prob ahead of him but the other two behind me to act complicate the situation. this also makes someone behind me far less likely to have a 10. also the table was tight and even though I have a ****ty image i'm not so sure they are adjusting to that as it's so early in the session.


thoughts?
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12-16-2011 , 03:32 PM
Don't think too hard here. Just shove. Your last $215 will a pot of $425 or more. You don't have to be 50% here.

V1 could have a set or two pair (8,9). He could also have a SD or FD. There are many more combos for the draws and all of the above fit his line. Against two pairs, you have nine outs on the flop and twelve on the turn, so calling would be +EV given the pot. Pair/draw combinations are also possible.

The two other villains probably have < 2 pair. Flatting the flop would have been ridiculously stupid with the draws on this board and # of villains. Of course, the old guy might do it, but sometimes you have to pay people for being stupid. In the long run, you'll get their money.
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12-16-2011 , 03:33 PM
Snoqualmie casino? Is your name Dan?
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12-16-2011 , 03:40 PM
Another way to look at this - there are only three combos remaining apiece for 99, 88, and 22 (which is often folded anyway.) Meanwhile, there are 16 combos left for J,10 and many more combos for flush draws.
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12-18-2011 , 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by dj_goldman
Snoqualmie casino? Is your name Dan?
nah sam. i was only up playing for the week.
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12-18-2011 , 11:34 AM
i iz allz inz
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