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05-19-2014 , 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Willyoman
I mean, here's the thing. It's a good idea to let this guy bet into you on certain boards. However, I don't think it's great to check to him on a KcQs7c flop, and I would just bet this flop for value.

This texture just crushes his pre-flop calling range, unless he's so loose pre that he can have ~ATC... KJ, KT, QJ, QT, JT, AJ, AT, Q9s, Q8s, K9s, K8s, T9, J9, 98cc, T9cc, 65cc, 86cc, Axcc, etc. - broadway cards, flush draws, straight draws, gut shot draws, backdoor draws, pairs, pairs + draws, etc.

Next, when you check to him, and he bets $100 - OK, yes, despite what I posted above, I'm a little less interested in just a c/c now. $100 is a relatively huge bet. I actually don't mind a check/jam facing a bet of $100. But when I'm initially deciding to check, I'm doing it to check/call. I would change that plan when he makes a much larger bet than I would have expected.

The thing is, when you check/jam, you're getting him to fold plenty of hands with very little equity. And that highlights a fallacy of checking this board. Like if this guy is very aggro, maybe he will sometimes raise the flop with a very low equity hand like AT if you bet $75. Or call two large bets on two streets, and then we can check some rivers to him. But if you check/shove, he will fold.

So back to the start - I would just lead the flop for value yourself and never fold even though this is a villain who could get aggressive on his own. Again, this flop just crushes any reasonable pre-flop continuing range, and he can give you lots of value with worse. Maybe you can bet smaller to induce the aggro instead of checking.

I think the best line is:

- Lead flop, don't fold. If he calls, bet turn. If he calls, I think that leaves us with a 1/2 PSB on the river. At that point, you can decide whether to shove for value or check/call to induce.

If you're going to check the flop, I think it has to be with the plan to check/call. It's not a plan I like, but c/c > check/shoving.

However, if you do check the flop, and as played, and villain bets $100, which I think is a pretty huge bet (in the OP, you said villain makes small bets to steal post flop), then I think he has a pretty strong range which is wide with all sorts of draws, the occasional 77, and Kx type hands that can level themselves into calling check/shoves. So facing the $100 bet, check/shove.
Willi go ahead and touch yourself bruh.

This Is the answer. Just led flop IMO
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05-19-2014 , 09:21 PM
I hate check raising when you flop 2pair like this unless it's against a Villain that you KNOW will never fold. Just lead out or C/c. Either is fine.
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05-19-2014 , 09:39 PM
I think you should be leading this flop. But if you don't it's gotta be c/c. C/r folds out to much of his airy hands. His sizing is way high, really think that alone takes 77 out of his range and he had more draw heavy hands. Can be played so many ways though.
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