I play online and play 1/2 live quite a bit. i notice when a 2/5 player enters the game waiting for a 2/5 seat they seem arrogant and cocky like us 1/2 people have no clue. Also since they are used to big pots they are not opposed to reraising a $20 continuation bet to 75 with a just draw. The one thing I really seem to notice is they only think on the 2nd level of I know what I have and I can pretty much tell what he has. ex: river card brings a 3rd diamond and the guy thats been calling the whole way leads out for a bet you hear the 2/5 guy say he obviously has the flush and mucks.

I've used this to my advantage as I bluffed a guy off of broadway on the river with a paired board- KQJJA i had A4 and wanted to see if i was right and i pushed the river and he showed JT he muttered he has to have the boat.

Anyone else notice this trend ?

Yes, and I internally laugh at people who show such false sense of privilege, especially since 2/5 players are rarely much better than 1/2 players and actually have their own set of leaks, in my opinion.

For the record, I am a career 2/5 player, and when I am waiting for my game at the 1/2 table, I always make sure to socialize with the players and show that I have respect for their games. Cockiness is a huge leak in itself, IMO.

Im not saying all are like this but its almost like they are so full of themselves and give us such horrible credit they are almost easier to exploit then the 1/2 players. I've never played 2/5 so I dont know if their attitude changes there but if not I need to build my roll rather quickly to make that easy money

2/5 players typically know each other very well and are "buddy-buddy", unlike most 1/2 players. It is like being in the "in crowd", with 1/2 players being the outsiders who "don't get it". I have never bought into this mentality, but I see it quite a bit.

Jerseys I know you play at MS not sure if you played at Foxwoods as well, just wondering if you noticed that MS 2/5 players are the worst about that cockiness. Whenever I play at MS there are always people making fun of the 1/2 players. Seems they move up so people respect their raises. lol


Looks like you have seen the same thing.

you shoulda shown after he mucked and been like... "wheee two pair!... why did you fold the trip jacks?!"

Hell yes.

There are some regs at MS who have that attitude, and they are usually the ones who play as predictable as **** or are just plain spewtastic. Myself? You will see me at the table with a "loosy-goosy" fun attitude who loves to joke around with the regs who I actually like. I see people who openly berate others, and although I do not say anything to them, it absolutely disgusts me.

The worst part is that I associate with a lot of the cocky players, so after they leave, I sometimes apologize on their behalf for acting like a complete jackass. Last session, one was acting so out of line saying how he was "so much better" than everyone else that it made me feel embarrassed for the both of us. Seriously.

I lost $1100 that session because I simply missed every board, flopped 0 sets, hit 0 draws, and had my aces run into a JT98x board which I folded, and even then, I found it in me to congratulate others on nice hands and to show others the proper respect. Heck, I even had someone call my AK raise with 42o and hit a A53 board, and when he flipped up his cards after I folded and showed, I just laughed and said, "that's hilarious, well played, man!"

he showed the jt and i did show my a4 he got up and left as his 2/5 seat opened up at the same time

Nothing new here. Pre no-limit mania the same thing would happen at the limit tables. The 10/20 players would sit down at the 3/6 table while waiting for a seat. Then proceed to play any two and blow through a couple of racks of chips because all the 3/6 players were so "terrible".

Make a note and adjust accordingly. A $75 c-bet from one of these no respect 2/5 players doesn't carry the same weight as a $75 c-bet from a 1/2 reg.

prime example

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...looker-853797/

Well, when it really gets down to it, you have to take a look at the overall people in the games. The "overall" players in the 1/2 games where i play are like kitchen table people on vacation. Drinking, talking loud, laughing, having a ball. Its not at all inconceivable that a 2/5 player who considers himself a "player" would sit down and feel above these players. (its not right, its ego and childish in a way, but u gotta remember, 2/5 players are not the best at showing real professionalism either. Just look at the conversation at 1/2, then 2/5, then 5/10. Its a WORLD of difference.

As players become accomplished, their confidence and ego boost and is only natural. I wont name names, but there are a bunch of HSNL players that all think the others at their levels stink. Its just human nature. And they are not bad people until they really become an ass about it.

If you see players such as this, just realize that they are getting a sense of greatness by feeling superior to others. Thats really weakness showing and so you can kind of chuckle inside knowing it. Just concentrate on how to exploit them if possible. Forget about the emotion of it.

^ cough.... Luke Schwartz... cough


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damn 999 posts, I think I'll start a not ******ed thread for the 1Kth one.

yea its bad here at my oace since 3/5 is the highest game they run regularly.

The dumb thing is since its a small card room most 3/5 players play 2/2 since tht game is being played 24/7.

Like someone mentioned its easy to exploit them, my fav thing to do to a guy with a big ego is to bluff them and show it.

but obv not all are like that. I met some really good people when i would only play 2/2 while they waited for 3/5. I think it helped after they saw me so much.

I would say maybe 1/4 of the 3/5 regs are *******s here maybe 1/5 most are cool people. Funny thing is with the wider range of people that play 2/2 sometimes its a "harder" game, sometimes.

I always remember this saying by bruce lee. When asked about practice he said its best to practice he said its best to practice with guys who do not know martial arts cause they are unpredictable.

i had a guy who said he was a 2/5 player sit at my 1/2 table thursday night. he was awful. maybe the worst poker player i've ever seen. tried to buy in for his full 600 ... didn't seem to know the rules. i almost think he was a plant from the casino to give away money or something. and he did. he lost it all in less than 1.5 hours. including calling a big raise from me on the river on my broadway nuts when all he had was a weak jack. my first reaction when he sat down, 'oh, no, not at our table.' i expected him to be good. i won't make that mistake again.

People playing much smaller games than they're used to will do this. But 2/5 is only 2.5x bigger than 1/2, hehe. You should see the 25/50 regulars play 1/2, frequently going allin preflop with any two for 200 just for kicks.

There are a lot.of players who move up levels only BC they think they are better than the other....when they actually lack a lot of skills.

BTW people who boast this are more than likely not good players and are saying it more for ego.

he wasn't really boasting. i think he was looking for a 2/5 table and when he found ours, just said screw it and sat down.