V1 is a LAG. V2 just sat down about 1-2 orbits ago and I have never played with him before. he pretty much folded every hand since sitting down.

V1 is UTG +2 and makes it $20. Everyone folds to me and I 3-bet to $80 with TT. V2 is in BB and calls. V1 folds.

($180) flop is 852

V2 has $220 left and I have him covered.

Hero?

If V1 is really a LAG, then I would check, bet small ($80), or downbet on that flop to induce. Then, if the LAG bets/raises, shove.

The LAG folded pre.

Any reads on V2? You have basically a PSB left, jamming might make him think you have AK and call with all his med pairs, if he has AK he's prob folding to any size anyway.

I assume you are SB? Just bet ~$100 and make him either commit or fold.

Betting small isnt great here. Shoving is the only option imo. We're dead vs JJ or QQ which sucks but with stacks so short I don't see merit in the other options. We don't want to see a jack queen king or ace peel the turn so just rip it now and force him to call off with AK or fold his equity

I mean, we’re beat a lot here to JJ,QQ, maybe trapped AA. so it’s a crap spot.
I know you don’t have any, but reads would help. Against an OMC type (older gentleman, neatly stacks chips in piles of 50, etc), check/fold might be reasonable.
Totally readless, I guess you just jam and pray he has AK/99.
Another option might be to bet smaller like Javanewt recommended, and then fold if he comes over the top. You’d have to be damn sure he isn’t the type to jam over the top with 99 for this to be the correct play, though.
If you’re not planning to fold this hand facing aggression it’s better to take the aggressive action and jam yourself IMO.

How are we beat a lot here? We don't even know the range of the cold caller.

Betting small and folding to a jam would be horrible imho. If we're betting at all, we shouldn't be folding later. If he has AK/AQ/KQ, KJs, 66, 77, or 99 he might jam over a small bet since he's already "pot commited" in his mind.

@playbig:
I mean, he shouldn’t have a range here. Or as another poster put it on another thread, his range should be the empty set.

In practice, I think a few things could be going on.

1. Either the opponent is terrible (basically, a whale, donating -50 to -100BB per hour) and called off a quarter of his stack pre with any of the hands you mention. In which case it’s an easy jam with TT.

2 Or the opponent is not completely terrible and his range is JJ+,AK, maybe 99, maybe AQ. In this case jam is probably the best move.

3. Or the opponent is moderately aware and appropriately wary of cold calling 3bets, and his range is JJ+, maybe AK.

It’s kind of hard to range the opponent given no reads. I guess on a tighter 2/5 table this is more of a crap spot because I’d more likely categorize opponent as option 3. Idk.

I agree small bet/fold to jam is probably bad, and I’d just jam myself absent any reads.

We are beat a lot here because a guy who sits down and folds for two orbits just took two to the face pre. I'm not sure we can get away from our hand given the SPR and chance we run into AK, but we should not be surprised if villain flips over a large pocket pair at showdown.

Maybe it’s because I was listening to RCP earlier, but I think after considering the other lines, the best move is probably to bet 1/3 pot here so about $60. In theory he should be calling wider and he may be tempted to jam over the top with overs and we can snap call. If he folds, it’s not a bad outcome for $60. If he flats, we set up about a 1/2 pot jam on the turn. I wouldn’t like to see an A on the turn but anything else is okay.

The problem with shoving flop is it’s RIO: we get snapped by hands we’re losing to and he folds everything else. Checking let’s him realize his equity for free when we have a very favorable flop for our hand. Betting small gets the most out value out of his holdings that we’re beating and could induce a bluff. Best line by far.

That’s fair. I like the $60 size. Actually, if we go larger, like $100, it looks a bit strange because there isn’t any hand we could bet/fold. Even A4s/KQs will be priced in to call a jam. Whereas, if we bet $60, Villain may perceive some fold equity.

Who/what is RCP?

Not necessarily though, a guy folding his first 10 to 12 hands isn't really enough to label him yet at this point so I would still consider him readless (except for knowing his age, attire, how he handles his chips and cards, etc. which are usually reliable). But if we had better reads and think we're beat we should just c/f then.

Yep, that's exactly the merit I was thinking too. It's kind of the perfect effective stacks for it.

RCP is Red Chip Poker. It's a training site and they have a free podcast that's pretty accessible. I listen to it a lot driving home from work... the specific episode was "Where And When To Use GTO Poker" and one of the things they were advocating for was the 1/3 PSB in position, albeit for different reasons than apply here.

I subscribe to Crush Live Poker rather than RCP, but damn Bart Hanson can be super long-winded sometimes...

Dude's too short stacked and an unknown to stress about stacking off here. AK prob doesn't fold to $60 so I like $60/call and if called push most turns.

Small stack poker is ridiculous easy - shove

I am betting a third of the pot with my entire range on the flop. With this hand I am calling off if the villain shoves.

If called on the flop, I am checking and calling a shove. We are not folding, and if we call the villain's shove we can catch some bluffs that our own shove would have folded out.

Thank you everyone for your comments. Everything really helped. I like the $60 bet on the flop - I will incorporate when i get the chance again.

Thank you all!!!

What happened in the hand?

shove range>60 range

I pushed all in on the flop and he snapped showing QQ. But from the comments, I feel that it was a positive EV play in the long run even though I lost?

Once you got there otf, there's not much more you could have done.

I don't personally auto 3bet TT, especially if a Lag opened. When Lags open and someone 3bets him, it usually slows him down (of course this is player dependent). So if you flatted the Lag and the BB 3bet his queens, would have have called then? (jus wonderin)

Catching villain's bluffs > folding villain's air

Not surprised to see that hand at all, I think most players 4bet range is KK+. So he has full combos of JJ,QQ. But he also has AK, AQs — maybe AQo if he’s a bit loose. So your play is fine IMO. Interested to see what bet size PIO prefers if we just give opponent {JJ,QQ,AK,AQs}. My guess is it favors 1/3 PSB with your entire betting range, but idk.

I’d range even smaller considering stack size like around 40$ and we can comfortably fold to shove.

I think this is more reasonable than most replies. If he is LAG then he's bluffing or semi-bluffing here given the chance with almost anything. Top pair, draw, over cards, hell many even middle pair. There is no reason to assume you are beat here and assuming the worst in this scenario, most especially against a LAG with a short stack is a recipe for disastrous EV.