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Originally Posted by berry1
as played is anyone check/shoving river?
For the love of all that is poker, please don't go for a c/r on this river.
Seriously, players are rarely if ever bluffing on paired Ace boards in which we double barreled.
Going for a c/r in this spot when we have the Ace is just not optimal and is the epitome of FPS.
Do the math. If we are in a spot in which if our villains are calling our river shove 98% of the time, why on earth do we ever want to check???
Our hand is face up as a big Ace when we raise preflop and double barrel. Villain knows we have an Ace and KNOWS we have a big ace so he will check back his weaker ace. The only reason he won't fold his trip ace on the river even though he KNOWS we have an ace is because quite frankly 98% of villains just aren't good enough to fold trip aces even when they "know" they are beat. However, those same villains will let fear keep them from betting river and they will check back river...
This spot reminds me of a situation in which both me and villain were in the exact same circumstances.
Hand #1: I am on the BTN with AJo and raise, 3 callers. Villain is in the BB and he has A
4
Flop(16bb) J
3
8
chks to me, I bet 10bb, V calls.
Turn(36bb) 2
chks to me, I bet 25bb, V calls.
River(86bb) 2
V chks, I chk.
V shows A
4
and then says, "Man, I thought you were going to bet river"
Same situation happened, except reverse, I'm on the flush draw and V is in position. He bets 1/2 pot on flop then 1/3 pot on turn. I hit on river and I lead out 3/4 pot. V tanks and says, "You hit the flush huh? Okay I call."
I show the flush, he slams his fist on the table and shows his TPTK hand and says, "Nice river"...
He put me on the flush and still called me. If I check that river he is checking back like always. Same thing with our trip Aces.
Whenever we are in these spots and our hands are all face up, for the love of all that is poker just bet the river and avoid the FPS c/r.